New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Sep 26, 2023.

  1. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Do try that with a speeding ticket.

    Perhaps a Ponzi scheme.
     
    #11     Sep 26, 2023
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  2. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Show me any developer that doesn't do the same thing when leveraging property for a loan.

    And btw lol... developers don't have the luxury of telling a county how much to appraise their property for. It's the other way around.:banghead:
    Welcome to the real world.
     
    #12     Sep 26, 2023
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  3. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Corrupt practices laws are very hard to grasp when you interpret everything through how it makes you feel and you are a sneaky lying shit.
     
    #13     Sep 26, 2023
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  4. piezoe

    piezoe

    But only if he is President at the time! He is of little use to the Saudis if he is just and old fat liar who is going to prison...
     
    #14     Sep 26, 2023
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  5. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    I don't know what is funnier...

    Watching all the shit flow down the hill to catch Trump or watching all the ET members running down the hill with Trump in a cult-like chant...we got your back. :D

    Then again, it's a well-known fact that New York mobsters eventually move to South Florida under the facade of a better tax environment until the judicial system catches up with them.

    Mafia’s traditions in South Florida date to the 1930s gambling heydays in Broward, when Meyer Lansky and his associates came south to claim a piece of the action in dozens of “carpet joints” – classy casinos that operated around Hallandale under the beneficial eye of a crooked sheriff.

    “It goes back to the 1920s and Al Capone. Capone had a house on Palm Island … and that was his alibi for the 1929 St. Valentine’s Day Massacre,” said Richard Mangan, a 24-year Drug Enforcement Administration agent.

    “Back in the 1940s and 1950s, Hallandale was Las Vegas Southeast,” said Mangan, who now teaches a class called “Organized Crime and the Business of Drugs” at Florida Atlantic University’s School of Criminology. “Clubs like La Boheme were operating. A made [formally inducted] mob member named Anthony “Tony” Plates would set up shop in the Diplomat Hotel during the winters, plying politicians with booze and hookers.”

    The gambling generated so much cash that the gangsters suppressed their violent natures...

    In more recent years, “The Teflon Don,” Gambino boss John Gotti, maintained a residence in Fort Lauderdale. So did Nicodemo “Little Nicky” Scarfo, the brutal head of a Mafia family operating in Philadelphia and Atlantic City.

    Underbosses, consiglieres and soldiers from all the families are well represented, from Palm Beach Gardens to the Keys.
    Simply, South Florida is also a popular destination for Chicago's rich & famous mob gangsters posing as rich businessmen. It's shocking that what is occurring today has some similarities to the 1920s - 1950s...even the wives, girlfriends, and supporters were stupidly naive about what really was going on behind closed doors in those business meetings.

    wrbtrader
     
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    #15     Sep 26, 2023
  6. UsualName

    UsualName

    What’s important here is that if they can do this Trump then they can do this to you too.

    On a serious note, this is a real crime and if it was a democrat you all would be advocating prosecution to the fullest extent of the law.
     
    #16     Sep 26, 2023
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  7. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    So the Trump Org is going to be closed, as Conway said, it's the death sentence for a company. Trump has of course shells within shells to firewall liability and I expect there might be complexity in closing and selling everything?

    I found this:
    New York's Martin Act is focused on dealing with corrupt practices. It is a broad antifraud statute that empowers the Attorney General to take action against fraudulent conduct in connection with the sale of securities and commodities within or from New York. The Martin Act prohibits a variety of deceptive and fraudulent practices, including:

    • Making false or misleading statements about securities or commodities
    • Insider trading
    • Market manipulation
    • Ponzi schemes and other fraudulent investment schemes
    The Martin Act is a powerful tool for combating corrupt practices in the securities and commodities markets. It has been used to prosecute a wide range of individuals and entities, from corporate executives to stockbrokers to investment advisors.

    The Martin Act is particularly well-suited for dealing with corrupt practices because it does not require the Attorney General to prove that the defendant acted with scienter, or intent to defraud. This means that the Attorney General can bring a successful Martin Act case even if the defendant did not knowingly or intentionally engage in fraudulent conduct.

    The Martin Act also gives the Attorney General broad investigative powers. The Attorney General can subpoena witnesses and documents, and can conduct investigations without having to demonstrate probable cause. This makes it difficult for defendants to evade prosecution under the Martin Act.

    The Martin Act has played a significant role in protecting investors from fraud and corruption. It is a powerful tool that the New York Attorney General uses to ensure that the securities and commodities markets are fair and honest.
     
    #17     Sep 26, 2023
  8. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    I'm only calling a spade a spade here.
    Regarding me... if it pissed me off, I could care less what jersey they sport. Red, blue, green... I'm gonna raise hell. But that was not the point of my post.
     
    #18     Sep 26, 2023
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  9. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    There is no victim----and no crime. It is up to banks to decide the value of properties. No banks lost money. This is just part of the overall witch hunt.
     
    #19     Sep 26, 2023
  10. UsualName

    UsualName

    A wise man once said there’s only so long you can pretend. Trump’s con in NY has come to end. Give him credit it was a great run. He may even be the president twice.
     
    #20     Sep 26, 2023
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