New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Sep 26, 2023.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    'Wait until Melania finds out he’s only worth 800 bucks': The View mocks Trump’s business meltdown

    https://www.rawstory.com/trump-is-poor-view/
     
    #91     Sep 27, 2023
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  2. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    I have encountered many villagers in third world Africa who struggle to understand 'victimless' or relatively so crime.

    Classical legal theory distinguishes between two types of bad acts: malum prohibitum (wrong because it is against the law) and malum in se (wrong in itself). For example speeding is wrong because it is illegal, but murder is wrong in itself.

    In a society governed by the rule of law, we all have a stake in the system. When the rules are applied fairly, we (non-narcissist/sociopaths) are willing to refrain from doing things that we might want to do but that are against the rules, even if we don't think they are morally wrong. We do this because we are invested in a society that works because of its rules. We view following the rules as the price of living in a functioning society.

    When people believe that the system and its rules are fundamentally fair, they are more likely to follow them even when they disagree with them. When they don't believe that the system is fair, it breaks down and society begins to rot from the inside out. In the end, all that is left is a kleptocracy, where the powerful rule by force.

    Again, in a society where the law is fair and applied fairly, people are more likely to follow it, even if they don't agree with every law. When people believe that the law is unfair, they are more likely to break it and society suffers as a result.


     
    #92     Sep 27, 2023
  3. There is a German saying: “The more laws, the less justice”.

    There is such a thing as over regulation. Laws designed to break the chain of events that could lead to breaking of a more significant law, such as coolers at the beach possibly containing alcoholic beverages, to prevent drunken downing deaths etc., may be considered as overreaching. Obviously, some container laws are at the behest of certain alcohol serving businesses, which is also an example of legislative abuse.

    Society, through the many interactions/transactions of people will often adjust to an efficient “Working arrangement”, which may not comply fully to the letter of the law, but still serves in the best interests of society at large.

    For the sake of completeness, business and personal practices can devolve if there is extended lack of enforcement. For example, lack of interstate traffic law enforcement in the DFW area has created such a hazardous condition, that evasive action is required every minute of travel or so, compared to maybe one per day in other areas. Further, the current state of business conduct/ethics in the US is poor and devolving. Customers are being taking advantaged of. Ultimately, this will harm unethical businesses themselves and beyond, including the economy, as consumers become increasingly reluctant to spend.

    In conclusion, an important differentiator is whether harm has clearly taken place and the relative competence of the parties. Trump and the banks are relatively on the same level. Often, a business has superior knowledge over a consumer for a particular service, thus justifying greater legal protection.
     
    #93     Sep 27, 2023
  4. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Yep, that's what the villagers say.
     
    #94     Sep 27, 2023
  5. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    How to put this into trailerpark avoiding receiving a chatTPK generated response.

    This Subaru WRX:
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    Gets more attention by law enforcement than this Buick Encore:

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    #95     Sep 27, 2023
  6. Sprout

    Sprout

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    None of your points are relevant. He chose to run a political campaign during his lifelong criminality.
     
    #96     Sep 27, 2023
  7. Sprout

    Sprout

    bruh, your spinning your wheels in nonsense
     
    #97     Sep 27, 2023
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  8. Sprout

    Sprout

    Thank you
     
    #98     Sep 27, 2023
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  9. DTB2

    DTB2

    Amazing that some do not understand the difference between a County Assessed Valuation and Market Value.
     
    #99     Sep 27, 2023
  10. Have you ever tried to correlate recent sales prices with recent assessed “Value”. If you have, what is your conclusion? I have and I’ll tell you my conclusion in a bit.
     
    #100     Sep 27, 2023