New to Option and need advice

Discussion in 'Options' started by DatDude, Sep 5, 2018.

  1. ironchef

    ironchef

    This::D

    :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: We retails don't have the fancy tools to trade non directional.

    Just one more thing: A directional bet works well in the current bull market which is essentially straight up since 2009. I have no ability to predict when this bull will end and not sure what to do when the bear arrives.

    My account took a terrible beating from Feb through May of this year, it is easy in hindsight to say change direction in a correction/bear but real life is not that simple.
     
    #21     Sep 7, 2018
  2. gkishot

    gkishot

    If you can't make money trading options, then you might not be able to make money trading stocks. Whatever you strategy is, there is no difference. And yes, you can make money with stocks with a long enough time horizon. But this is a common knowledge.
     
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2018
    #22     Sep 7, 2018
  3. ironchef

    ironchef

    I agree, if you can't make money trading options, then you might not be able to make money trading stocks.

    Perhaps the reverse is also true: If you can make money trading stocks, you might be able to print money trading options. :finger:
     
    #23     Sep 7, 2018
  4. I believe if you cannot make money trading stocks then you cannot make money trading directional options. Options afterall are derivatives whose value is derived from the underlying. You have to be right on the stock movement and magnitude for the option to make money. So if you know nothing on stock direction, picking calls and puts will still be a losing game....
     
    #24     Sep 7, 2018
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  5. ironchef

    ironchef

    Agree with that too.

    After reading a bunch of old threads on flies the last few days, I am beginning to appreciate why pros trade them instead of directional if you have the tools and understanding.

    Regards,
     
    #25     Sep 7, 2018
  6. Mnewton

    Mnewton

    For options the best piece of software is thinkorswim.
    Has all the Greeks and other stuff.
    You need a couple of strategies.
    Start with trading NDX the spread is from 10 to 25
    Select the vertical view in the option list it will give you the cost to put on the spread. (If will also give you costs for butterflies, condors etc)
    Try an otm a week away at nominal cost day .80 cents.
    See how it works out.
    Another strategy is to day trade the options.
    Better done on a weekly on Friday. At 930 try to pick an option just otm on a stock that will move quickly say NFLX, if the stock pops you can turn a 30 cent option into a $3 one. The trick is finding the right stock and option
     
    #26     Sep 8, 2018