New to DOM reading, some questions and advice please

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Z2TT, Apr 21, 2019.

  1. qlai

    qlai

    Defining "quickly" and "rejected" is the hard part, no?
     
    #31     Apr 29, 2019
  2. bone

    bone

    Not hard at all - those are the price ranges that last seconds; not minutes or hours or days. On a chart they appear as a “long pole” bar or candle. They almost always occur after an economic release or market moving event. To trade them, you have to be very fast and you will have to step out and hit a bid or lift an offer. My personal best trading day ever was courtesy of a five second span of time immediately after a US Civilian Unemployment Report.
     
    Last edited: Apr 29, 2019
    #32     Apr 29, 2019
  3. Z2TT

    Z2TT

    Hi Bone. How do you anticipate or catch the top of a quick spike like that that sucks right back. I've seen them a lot. Trading them will require a tight stop loss. That's the issue I have. They look great once they've happened, but in the live then and now when I see it shoot up, do you wait for it to momentarily stall right after spiking, or enter on the close of that candle if price is still high at time of close
     
    #33     May 28, 2019
  4. bone

    bone

    Typically you have to anticipate it (like an economic release) and have a resting order well away from the market. And a pair of stones.
     
    #34     May 28, 2019
  5. Z2TT

    Z2TT

    Is there any specific rules or parameters you follow. Do you compare it to previous times it has happened, or perhaps a ratio of how far the "spike" candle is from the current trend?
     
    #35     May 28, 2019
  6. bone

    bone

    Yes - know in specific detail the daily trading limits (points, tics) for the instrument you are trading. That way, your counter party or the exchange can't nullify the trade.
     
    #36     May 28, 2019
  7. Z2TT

    Z2TT

    Interesting.

    Is there anyway the DOM can help in this situation? Would we sometimes see a certain price level firming up with lots of limit orders ready to smash it down, or will these generally be market orders which immediately bring the price back to normality ?
     
    #37     May 28, 2019
  8. bone

    bone

    Severe price dislocations have extremely short lifetimes measured in a few seconds and sometimes fractions of a second. And they are rare. And modern automated trading systems will be much faster than you ever could dare to be sitting at a desk with a mouse in your hand staring at a computer screen. And those same automated trading systems in my opinion make DOM reading somewhat antiquated and unreliable.

    The DOM is not a panacea for good tradecraft, and the DOM is not a wellspring for some sort of 'holy grail'. You need to be wary of 'rabbit holes', and the DOM is possibly such a trap. In other words - you can get sidetracked for a very long period of time on things that ultimately prove to be a dead end.
     
    #38     May 28, 2019
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