New NASA Study Shows CO2 causes Cooling

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Jun 5, 2013.

  1. jem

    jem

    did you read that you agw nutters

    read that last sentence again about global temperatures...
     
    #171     Jun 13, 2013
  2. jem

    jem

    cern is on the verge of releasing e a study on this subject.

    here is the concluding paragraph.... of an interview...


    http://notrickszone.com/2013/05/19/...ts-of-cloud-the-results-are-very-interesting/

    Let’s assume that you are able to show that cosmic radiation indeed does contribute a lot to cloud formation. What would that mean?

    I think that the experiments are important in two ways. Firstly, they would show that there is a natural source to climate change. And the other point is that it would change our understanding of anthropogenic climate change. We know quite a bit about greenhouse gases. What we know little about are aerosols. These are particles that come from industry floating in the atmosphere. They surely have a cooling effect. However, we have no idea just how great this effect is. It may be small, but it may be very big. Maybe it is even big enough to offset the additional CO2 in the atmosphere.. We don’t know.

    Continue reading at ORF.at.”

    Image source: NASA, public domain image.
     
    #172     Jun 13, 2013
  3. jem

    jem

    so agw nutters...

    are you still feeling confident that man made co2 causes warming on earth. you really think it is significant. man do you guys have faith.
     
    #173     Jun 13, 2013
  4. stu

    stu

    That's right conspiracy guy. You like the science until you don't like what the science says. Unless it does say what you want to hear then it suddenly becomes -real science- with everyone and everything else a great big international UN conspiracy.

    You?..... looking for the truth?.... my ass.
     
    #174     Jun 15, 2013
  5. stu

    stu

    Yeah yeah whatever. The usual bullshit. Your 'science' is the kind that can prove the Earth is flat. Heard it all before.

    A thread title to misconstrue what NASA does say about stuff which is already known.
    Done to deny widely recognized scientific sources which conclusively say X, so you need to find those who assert Y or failing that, change and twist what X says.

    What is known is, there's "a higher than a 90% probability human emissions of CO2 cause the observed increase in global warming."

    "Humans have increased atmospheric CO2 concentration by a third since the Industrial Revolution began. This is the most important long-lived "forcing" of climate change." NASA

    My objection is the making up of bullshit inferences and false innuendo, like the thread title encourages, which of course you swallow hook line and sinker and copy out like the total fool you are.

    "Not here to worship what is known, but to question it." ....Exactly!!!

    Whereas you just worship the opposite of what is known.
     
    #175     Jun 15, 2013
  6. jem

    jem

    you are are a fricken kook. you just posted opinion... not science supported by data.

    1. for instance... you have not shown there is warming outside natural variation using appropriate statistics.

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    2. You have not shown co2 forces temperatures... ever...
    why? because the temperature data shows temperature leads co2.

    what is know is that throughout the historical record co2 accumulation lags temperature increase and co2 disapation lags temperature decrease...

    here is proof... there are dozens of articles linking to the data from the ice cores.

    here is one with pretty charts for the simple minded trolls.


    http://icecap.us/images/uploads/CO2,Temperaturesandiceages-f.pdf






     
    #176     Jun 15, 2013
  7. pspr

    pspr

    "If only you had a brain." Then you could understand the science, tin man.

    For simpletons like yourself, this statement from this source should be sufficient. (hint: It's not Al Gore, it's someone who knows what he is talking about.)

    <font color=blue size=3><b>“The influence of mankind on climate is trivially true and numerically insignificant.”</b>
    ~Richard Lindzen, MIT Atmospheric Physicist
    </font>
     
    #177     Jun 15, 2013
  8. +1
     
    #178     Jun 15, 2013
  9. + 10000. Well said and on the money.
     
    #179     Jun 15, 2013
  10. The fact is that CO2 levels have gone up 40% in the last 150 years due to man. CO2 is a greenhouse gas responsible for about15% of the earth's greenhouse effect. How could that NOT make temps go up? It's a very simple common sense thing......... that the fossil fuel industry doesn't want you to think about. The basics of the science is settled. 97% of the world's climatologists and all the world's science organizations are in agreement about it. The deniers just look foolish now.


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    http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cmb-faq/globalwarming.html

    http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence

    http://climate.nasa.gov/causes

    http://www.skepticalscience.com/emp...ouse-effect.htm

    http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus
     
    #180     Jun 15, 2013