New margin requirements for Forex

Discussion in 'Forex' started by athlonmank8, Nov 16, 2009.

  1. 6:1?! hahaha.

    Is this a joke? Why in the hell do I want to put up 8x the amount of money to accomplish the SAME damn thing. It's meaningless. Maybe for you since you obviously haven't got a clue.

    Hell, years ago I was on 2:1 margin and was a bigger danger to society than ANYTHING NEAR what Forex gives me. IMO less leverage can do just as much damage due to the idea that it's 'ok' and 'not going to hurt as bad'. Bull. It's a morale hazard for idiots like that.

    If you understand the vehicle, there shouldn't be a problem.
     
    #21     Nov 17, 2009
  2. cstfx

    cstfx

    You, obviously, have no clue as to why these new margins went into effect if you believe it has anything to do with the an "over-leveraged" mortgage market.
     
    #22     Nov 17, 2009
  3. i'm a bit suspicious why there's been a reduction of leverage

    here in British Columbia, Canada - 'the best place on earth' - according to the licence plates
    changes in how fx is defined/regulated has meant a company has to open a physical office
    in BC which is why fxcm did not renew its licence
    but more than that, i can no longer open an account with any US or UK fx broker who often
    state on their site they don't accept apps from bc residents, likely similar will occur for US
    residents and there may be a reduction in the UK, alpari offers 500, fxcm 400 ?
    i did speak to avafx Ireland, Cyprus who assured me they would accept my application, likewise
    'Russian' brokers tho a British Virgin Islands broker declined

    as to leverage, the 6E euro fx and other globex currencies have a daytrading margin at most
    futures brokers of 500 - $500 for the $125,000 contract and amp has an even higher margin
    for the ES at $400

    personally i don't think leverage is anyone's business but mine, and financial crisis leverage
    had to do with obtaining loans to provide additional leverage

    think of spread betting when it comes to fx and leverage
     
    #23     Nov 17, 2009
  4. The new requirements will only send US traders to use foreign accounts. Leverage used appropriately can be very beneficial in forex. Here is some interesting info at: http://bestforexbrokersreviews.com
     
    #24     Nov 27, 2009
  5. is long the dollar a sure bet this weekend?
     
    #25     Nov 27, 2009
  6. FXPimp

    FXPimp

    too much leverage is the #1 killer of retail forex accounts. they should cut the max leverage to 20:1 on majors. Its all smoke and mirrors that trick newbies into thinking a ton of leverage is a good thing.
     
    #26     Dec 3, 2009
  7. Are you serious? All this regulation never went into effect until after things went to hell. How about pre-2007?

    I mean seriously. Don't blow smoke up my ass.
     
    #27     Dec 10, 2009
  8. oh 100:1 is fine ... why risk more capital than needed? I'd rather buy all the zhu zhu pets in all the walmarts in the midwest with the cash I save over 20:1

    btw anyone need a zhu zhu pet? You can buy one from me on ebay for $40 :D

    leverage is only dangerous if you hold onto your position ... just trade the momentum or scalp and then leverage will be your friend

    serving you up quick pips
     
    #28     Dec 15, 2009
  9. bpcnabe

    bpcnabe

    It has nothing to do with an over-leveraged mortgage market. Bucket shops themselves are not leveraged, they just extend you leverage knowing you will blow up. These new regs were put into effect after a raft of complaints and charges made against these firms. It is about reigning in an unregulated, wlid west trading model.

    It has nothing to do with firm leverage and market exposure and risk of firm default.
     
    #29     Dec 15, 2009
  10. I don't really understand all your answers. If any of you believe that 100:1 or 50:1 leverage will cause blowouts then can you say how large your stops are and what the number of consecutive losses you expect? Because the size of the profits/losses per lot doesn't change regardless of the amount of money you paid for it.

    If you need to double your money just to break even once you have a 50% loss, then let's suppose someone doesn't want to lose more than 1/3 or 33.4%. So, assuming $100 loss 10 times in a row means you'd lose $1000. This means you'd survive if your total amount was $3000.

    Since you can trade 1/10 micro lots with FXOpen, it means you can trade with any amount you can imagine. You could calculate an amount you can trade with less than $100 or even $50. I just don't get these messages at all.

    Fact is, for people who can actually use a calculator (lol), or see the profits/losses in real time in their platform, the changes in regulation mean absolutely NOTHING.

    The one thing it does do, which I don't like, is to prevent you to use smaller amounts of money in a mini lot account when you're just testing ideas. I find I need the pressure of testing with real money to notice much more detail about what's going on. Fortunately for me, I got to a point where I have sufficient experience where I can still notice more details in charts when I'm trading only small amounts now in a micro lot account.
     
    #30     Jan 6, 2010