You could use the inandlong line in the sand for an entry and profitseers time tested system for the exit since as you will recall the time tested system has no entry only an exit. I've traded this system and here's how it goes. Day one, expect to get stopped out maybe 15 times. Day 2 get stopped out 3 times And then maybe more later on in the week If I was trading es, I would allow 10K per contract I would try to adjust the stop each day to represent a 1% profit per day (or maybe .5% profit per day depending) but that has to include all the losses and stop outs from day one on. So if after one week I have 20rts and say 1.5 loss per r/t that is $1600 in losses. So I am starting off 32 points in the hole. But if after 30 trading days the market has moved 62 points in my favor, there's my .5 per cent per day. And if the market moves more than that, I move my stop 1 or 2 points a day. And that's just a vulgar start. Good luck on day one could make profits dramatic. Bad luck could blow you up all the way. But it would have to be pretty bad luck to wipe out 6k at $80 per loss. You have 75 stops to either make it or break it. But if you go all the way to 75, you need 120 points to break even. What we need is a hobbyist who doesn't have to trade for a living to test this out for us in real time with real money. And even if it works for him, would you have the guts to try it? Those drawdowns sure look different when you are approaching them. You know what inandlong? Both of these crazy systems we've designed have backtested out remarkably profitable!