After yet another dull open I got to thinking about how hard this market would be if I was just starting out. You guys that are not profitable, whether it's been 2 months or 2 years, need to know that right now is a time for defensive trading. This market offers very few opportunities daily as compared to the last couple years. If I had to start over in this environment I would have failed. Months like these are for practice, to sharpen your skills. If you can develop strategies that break even, or even make a little in todays market then when volatility hits again you will be well positioned. The hard part will be surviving until the opportunities return. It may be years, but I really hope not. There will be those that say you just have to adjust to the market, there are always opportunities etc. This just isn't the case (regarding stocks). Most good traders I know will make 20-40% of last years earnings and will be content with that, including myself. So this is basically a pep talk. Stick with it. Protect your capital. Grind it out, and better days will come. p.s. TZ please don't puke all over my thread.