New Green Deal

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Stockolio, Feb 8, 2019.

  1. Stockolio

    Stockolio

    There seems to be some in fighting in the democratic party, old guard vs new guard. The new democrats are definitely more left winged, self described socialists and questions the extent of Israel's relationship. The old democrats are way more capitalist friendly, very close to Israel some would argue too close, more in tune with the economy, they signed off on Dodd frank act trump signed in early 2018 , https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/06/opinion/democrats-trump-dodd-frank.html , outline.com for paywall.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...panel-ocasio-cortez-not-among-members-n968896

    What do you guys think this means going forward ? Is there hope the green deal won't become a reality and new guard get pushed out, or are we doomed... The old guard democrats are horrible in my opinion, but if I have to pick a poison, I would rather them. The new green deal is absolute destruction of the Petro dollar and US Dollar, its literally economical suicide... I understand why climate change is important but anything in moderation is always best, the consequences if this passes are quite worrying even as a Canadian... The general population in North America will greatly have there wealth diminished if this bill ever gets to see daylight. Quote :

    Pelosi's announcement comes as Ocasio-Cortez, who pushed for the creation of the committee, is rolling out the framework of a Green New Deal with Democratic Sen. Ed Markey of Massachusetts in a resolution on Thursday. Several 2020 contenders, like Sens. Kamala Harris of California, Cory Booker of New Jersey, Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, are co-sponsoring the resolution.

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/419117-dems-rally-for-green-new-deal

    I don't think it really matters, if the democratic party wins in the next election, the deal might not see light but will definitely see talks of it, somewhere within 10 years it will be in effect, and 10 years after that day its game over. Hopefully we have 8-10 years before it actually gets implemented, and 10 years delay, giving us 20 years before destruction of North American economy in good case scenario. But why would anybody self inflict this on his own country ? It's sick and almost demented why people who are supposedly working for the people fuck up society with something like this, but mainstream media isn't even destroying this, some of these clowns are co signing this garbage, you can't be stupid enough not to be able to understand the severity of such non sense, this is a setup from within! But why ?

    Here are some details and it's fucking insane... https://www.atr.org/green-new-deal-air-travel-stops-becoming-necessary . Quote :

    Rebuild every single building in the U.S.:
    Upgrade or replace every building in US for state-of-the-art energy efficiency

    Build trains across oceans and end all air travel!


    Build out highspeed rail at a scale where air travel stops becoming necessary


    WTF!?
     
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  2. Won a seat in a great upset...is a new person to this level of government.... rather than learn the ropes and see how things are done and see within what framework change can be accomplished....

    THIS is what her group comes up with.....??? Dems wonder why they are creating more and more dislike for the far left forces taking control of their party as a reaction to Trump rather than centralizing to ensure stronger support and base.
     
  3. Wallet

    Wallet

    Welcome to the "New and Improved DNC".

    Now you understand the utter disbelief coming from the right towards her and those like her.

    She's just a byproduct of today's academia and social propaganda.
     
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  4. You can comment on her appearnace and how it makes the DNC look but what is the attack on all academia. You think universities are all liberal....enter the field of Finance and look at the positions of entire universities for example. There are plenty of conservative colleges and universities across the U.S. (take a visit to Ole Miss and tell me that is a liberal kettle). Nothing wrong with schools being liberal or conservative but let's not paint them all with one brush.
     
  5. Nancy Pelosi just threw some serious shade at Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's 'Green New Deal'
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/07/politics/pelosi-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-green-new-deal/index.html

    Thursday is a big day for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The New York freshman Democrat, who has rapidly become one of the biggest stars in her party, will formally introduce her much-touted "Green New Deal" -- a package of legislation aimed at, among other things, addressing the threat posed by climate change.

    Nancy Pelosi isn't all that impressed. Asked about the "Green New Deal" in an interview with Politico on Wednesday, Pelosi dropped this amazing bit of shade on it:

    "It will be one of several or maybe many suggestions that we receive. The green dream, or whatever they call it, nobody knows what it is, but they're for it, right?"

    I mean.

    Pelosi knows exactly what she's doing here. Her utter dismissiveness of the "Green New Deal" -- and, by extension, AOC, who is the member most closely identified with it, is entirely intentional.

    (More trashing of AOC by Pelosi at above url)
     
  6. Stockolio

    Stockolio

    Unless The Military Complex or NASA found a way to 3D Print rare mining materials, I do not see how this is even remotely possible from a rare mineral material stand point even on a 30 year scale! Or even worst, the Job guarantee, which will promote state owned enterprise SOE's like communist China, pushes private out of equation cause they actually have to compete in a world where profit matters, then your society becomes full blown communist...

    https://workandclimatechangereport....n-new-deal-based-on-a-jobs-for-all-guarantee/

    This is literally the death of the United States, you wanna talk about Hyper Inflation ? Not only will the US lose it's Petro Dollar, Reserve Currency Status if this goes through, with a 1 Trillion + deficit on paper, and off the books printing to Military Complex, two litres of milk will cost 10 dollars in no time... Can you imagine how much printing you would have to do in order to get even 25 % of this done ? At the same time while your printing like crazy, you will destroy the reason you were able to print so much in first place without massive inflation, the only reason US isn't in hyper inflation mode is due to demand of US Dollar, through Oil trading... Once US stops trading Oil, it won't be able to enforce Petro Status, other countries will likely use blockchain technology to trade for it at that point, making the collapse of US Dollar very very quick and swift

    This is deranged!
     
  7. Overnight

    Overnight

    You know what else is crazy and deranged? Thinking the US will ever try the metric system of measurement again. They tried it in the 1970s and it failed hard.

    Stocko, the general US public doesn't understand metric. Stop the madness!
     
  8. Stockolio

    Stockolio

    How can this socialist approach be countered ?
     
  9. Overnight

    Overnight

    Which approach is "socialist"? I dun follow.
     
  10. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    Even Pelosi and most of her minions aren’t so stupid that they would accept communism.
     
    #10     Feb 8, 2019