new estimate. just how much did the george bush wars really cost?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Free Thinker, Jun 30, 2011.

  1. the disaster that was george bush just keeps on giving. here is a new estimate on how much it all cost. 4 trillion dollars.
    i know obama owns the wars now but we would have never gone there without george bush:

    We asked:

    •What have been the wars’ costs in human and economic terms?
    •How have these wars changed the social and political landscape of the United States and the countries where the wars have been waged?
    •What will be the long term legacy of these conflicts for veterans?
    •What is the long term economic effect of these wars likely to be?
    •Were and are there alternative less costly and more effective ways to prevent further terror attacks?
    Some of the project’s findings:

    • While we know how many US soldiers have died in the wars (just over 6000), what is startling is what we don’t know about the levels of injury and illness in those who have returned from the wars. New disability claims continue to pour into the VA, with 550,000 just through last fall. Many deaths and injuries among US contractors have not been identified.
    •At least 137,000 civilians have died and more will die in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Pakistan as a result of the fighting at the hands of all parties to the conflict.
    •The armed conflict in Pakistan, which the U.S. helps the Pakistani military fight by funding, equipping and training them, has taken as many lives as the conflict in neighboring Afghanistan.
    •Putting together the conservative numbers of war dead, in uniform and out, brings the total to 225,000.
    •Millions of people have been displaced indefinitely and are living in grossly inadequate conditions. The current number of war refugees and displaced persons -- 7,800,000 -- is equivalent to all of the people of Connecticut and Kentucky fleeing their homes.
    •The wars have been accompanied by erosions in civil liberties at home and human rights violations abroad.
    •The human and economic costs of these wars will continue for decades, some costs not peaking until mid-century. Many of the wars’ costs are invisible to Americans, buried in a variety of budgets, and so have not been counted or assessed. For example, while most people think the Pentagon war appropriations are equivalent to the wars’ budgetary costs, the true numbers are twice that, and the full economic cost of the wars much larger yet. Conservatively estimated, the war bills already paid and obligated to be paid are $3.2 trillion in constant dollars. A more reasonable estimate puts the number at nearly $4 trillion.
    •As with former US wars, the costs of paying for veterans’ care into the future will be a sizable portion of the full costs of the war.
    •The ripple effects on the U.S. economy have also been significant, including job loss and interest rate increases, and those effects have been underappreciated.
    •While it was promised that the US invasions would bring democracy to both countries, Afghanistan and Iraq, both continue to rank low in global rankings of political freedom, with warlords continuing to hold power in Afghanistan with US support, and Iraqi communities more segregated today than before by gender and ethnicity as a result of the war.
    •Serious and compelling alternatives to war were scarcely considered in the aftermath of 9/11 or in the discussion about war against Iraq. Some of those alternatives are still available to the U.S.
  2. A whole lot more since your lover boy has extended them all and started new ones.
  3. as678


    I'm glad they make everybody read Orwell's 1984 in high school. I just wish more people could connect the dots. We live in that world.

    War is Peace. Ignorance is Strength. Freedom is Slavery.

    8 years of Big BroBush. Probably 8 years of Big BroBama.
  4. Arnie


    At least GWB followed the law by asking for and receiving congressional approval.

    A little reminder, it passed both houses by a wide margin:

    House 296-133
    Senate 77-23
  5. lets not overlook the fact that the evidence used to gain the approval was fabricated.
  6. Crispy


    Any president that maintains presence there under false pretense is just as guilty as Bush.

    Just like the 5 presidents who perpetuated the supposed vietnam war which was exposed as fraud towards the end.

    Bush-Obama no fucking rubbish.

    Its not the "george bush wars" its the us governments wars...

    The state always equals violence in all ways

  7. Lucrum


    They're not the Bush wars any more, BO owns them lock stock and barrel.
  8. i can't believe he got away with that one!

    the first red flag the country was going down the sh*tter was when clinton got away with lying under oath.

    then bush lied to congress and got away with it too - another red flag. but it was too late by then. the snowball was rolling down the mountain.
  9. rew


    Who was dumb enough to believe the Bush administration's fabrications?

    Hillary Clinton.

    Who wasn't?

    Republican Ron Paul.

    BTW, Obama has had over two years to end the wars, and all he has done is get us into a new one. They are the Obama wars now.
  10. as678


    BTW, Where did Obama start a new war?
    #10     Jul 1, 2011