New Coronavirus Variant (Omicron; B.1.1529) a ‘Serious Concern’ in South Africa

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ipatent, Nov 25, 2021.

  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    That'd be something I'd consider taking. A well researched, well tested permanent vaccine. Will also be interesting to see what truth comes out on all the shots and boosters up until that point.
     
    #241     Dec 9, 2021
  2. ipatent

    ipatent

    Doesn't look possible with this virus.
     
    #242     Dec 9, 2021
  3. exlib

    exlib

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/o...rity-so-far-are-in-the-vaccinated-11639063116


    Coronavirus Update

    Omicron cases have been ‘mild,’ says CDC director, though majority so far are in the vaccinated

    About 75% of the 43 confirmed cases of omicron are in people who are fully vaccinated

    The number of people who have tested positive for omicron in the U.S. remains low, but hospitals and health officials remain on high alert as the overall number of COVID-19 cases continues to tick up and some hospitals are pressured by a growing number of cases.

    Forty-three people in 19 states have tested positive for omicron, according to remarks made to the Associated Press by Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. About 75% of those cases are in people who are fully vaccinated, and one person has been hospitalized. One-third of those individuals had traveled internationally; one-third had received a booster. The cases so far have been “mild,” she said.

    The new variant, which was first detected in South Africa, is thought to be more infectious; however, it’s unclear if it causes more severe disease. A study in Japan showed that the omicron variant was 4.2 times more contagious than the delta strain, according to a Bloomberg report on Thursday.

    Meanwhile, as overall number of cases rise, some hospitals in the U.S. are already struggling to meet the demand from COVID-19 patients.

    Geisinger, a large hospital system in Pennsylvania, said it ran out of beds and patients are waiting between 10 and 20 hours in the emergency room to receive care, according to Newsweek. Michigan Medicine, a hospital in Ann Arbor, is canceling elective surgeries as its hospital beds fill up with COVID-19 patients. Vermont’s hospitalizations are at a record high.

    a little more at link.


    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/o...rity-so-far-are-in-the-vaccinated-11639063116
     
    #243     Dec 10, 2021
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The Hunt for a Single Shot to Defeat Omicron and All Coronaviruses
    While the science is still in its early stages, the hardest part about developing a super-vaccine for all coronaviruses could be finding a way to pay for it.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...navirus-vaccine-protect-you-from-all-variants
     
    #244     Dec 10, 2021
  5. ipatent

    ipatent

    Boosters give 70%-75% protection against mild disease from omicron, UK says

    • Two doses of AstraZeneca and Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines provided much lower levels of protection against symptomatic infection compared to what they provide against delta, the UK Health Security Agency said.
    • Regardless of the initial vaccine a patient received, a Pfizer-BioNtech booster provided 70% - 75% protection against symptomatic infection for people.
     
    #245     Dec 10, 2021
  6. ipatent

    ipatent

  7. easymon1

    easymon1

    #247     Dec 10, 2021
  8. ipatent

    ipatent

  9. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Individuals that want to understand the science of Omicron in South Africa (most infections not vaccinated) versus the science of Omicron in the United States (most infections are those vaccinated)...

    Please learn about the Molecular Evolution of Human Coronavirus, wait until the data is released in a few weeks, or wait until Omicron becomes the dominant Variant of Concern in the United States and Canada.
    • Right now, the Delta Variant is the most dominant Variant of Concern here in the United States and Canada. It's a known threat to life right now.
    My point, to dumb it down, Variants of Concerns behave differently in different countries in their initial waves of infection.
    • A population that's more vaccinated tends to have mild infections that last no more than a few days...most of these infections will less likely to cause hospitalization or death. That's the purpose of vaccination to protect the vaccinated population.
    As I stated in another thread, when we have more data in a few weeks...hopefully as the Variant of Concern spreads through the population...the remaining population that's not vaccinated will also have mild infections.

    Another possibility (a good thing)...the Variant of Concern Omicron gets downgraded because it didn't have the ability to overtake the Delta Variant of Concern.

    In comparison, a population that is less vaccinated tends to have severe infections that result in hospitalization or death in its initial waves of infection along with increasing the risk for more Variants of Concern via Zoonosis.

    Simply, the United States and Canada may have enough (although I'm not sure) of its population fully vaccinated to keep Omicron from becoming dangerous if it becomes the dominant Variant of Concern. There's still a big debate if that's 70% to 85% of its population being vaccinated.
    • Here's the problem, if Omicron becomes the dominant mutant in the population regardless of the vaccination status of the country. It is a virus and it wants to survive...as in it wants to replicate in its hosts.
    It may adapt (learn/mutate) and become more pathogenic (deadly) strain...its the reason why each wave of infection that spreads across a country...different regions will have statistically different rates of infection and hospitalization.

    Another way to say it, the first wave of an infection... it's not a bad thing if most of the Covid infections are mild. In my opinion, its a good thing as long as the Variant of Concern doesn't mutate again and the best way to prevent the possibility of mutating again is to have as many in the population be vaccinated.

    Thus, you want to limit the number of hosts a virus can find for the ability to mutate by getting your population more vaccinated and/or getting them to develop a more healthy lifestyle plus using restrictions to encourage that healthy lifestyle.

    Right now, here in the United States and Canada, Omicron is just mild but our problem is still growing with the Delta Variant of Concern. This is a dangerous combination because of the behavior in the population (e.g. ignoring public health guidelines)...

    People may let their guard down because of all the hype and mild infections with Omicron but they then get infected with the Delta Variant of Concern that we know for fact right now is very deadly to those not vaccinated here in North America.
    • Cross your fingers that as Omicron transitions into the not vaccinated population...it remains as a mild infection.
    Most scientist say viruses are not a living organism because they can not make their own energy nor grow on their own. Yet, they sure in the hell are excellent at replicating themselves inside of a host...destroying our cells...like robots trying to take over the world and they do this by replicating different Variants of Concern in their hosts.

    wrbtrader
     
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2021
    #249     Dec 11, 2021
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  10. ipatent

    ipatent

    Denmark's Omicron surge is a warning to the rest of world

    Lab studies conducted by vaccine manufacturers Pfizer and BioNTech have indicated that a third dose may restore protection against the Omicron variant. Still, the Danish data shows more than 100 Omicron cases were discovered among the 19.3 per cent of Danes who have received booster shots.
     
    #250     Dec 11, 2021