New Coronavirus Variant (Omicron; B.1.1529) a ‘Serious Concern’ in South Africa

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  1. UsualName

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    #121     Dec 3, 2021
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    IMO if reinfections after natural infection are three times more likely with the Omicron variant then it is likely that the infections after full vaccination are more likely -- implying that Omicron is more vaccine evasive.

    Reinfections three times more likely with Omicron: S. African research
    https://www.france24.com/en/live-ne...s-more-likely-with-omicron-s-african-research

    Tags: COVIDOMICRON COVIDREINFECTION
     
    #122     Dec 3, 2021
  3. UsualName

    UsualName

    South African press briefing this morning on current state of omicron spread, not good:

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    #123     Dec 3, 2021
  4. ipatent

    ipatent

    First Case Of Omicron Variant Detected In LA County

    According to the press release, the individual was fully-vaccinated. All of the patient’s close contacts are also in isolation and have tested negative so far.
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    Of all the US positives, I haven't seen one report of an unvaccinated victim.
     
    #124     Dec 3, 2021
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  5. ipatent

    ipatent

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    Looks like it is spreading in the community out of the zone of control.
     
    #125     Dec 3, 2021
  6. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Dig a little deeper...a lot of cases in Europe and South Africa involve not being vaccinated but then getting infected with Omicron...that's then followed by hospitalization / ICU admission that jumps 300% - 500% that pushes hospitals there to their capacity limit.

    In comparison to the few cases in the United States involving those vaccinated while close contacts are not infected. This is very strange with all the prior stories about vaccinated people shredding the Covid virus.
    • Something is off in the story or so far it's statistically insignificant in the United States. Another thing that I find is strange...they discuss a few details involving South Africa, Europe and Asia...
    So far, similar details are not being discussed here in North America unless I missed it (e.g. age, health status prior to infection, vaccine type). If I was a public health official or the CDC...I would be scratching my head about why there's not any community spread like there is in South Africa and Europe.

    Also, I would be wondering why there are not more cases in the United States in comparison to Europe considering so far this Omicron is supposed to be more transmissible and supposed to be able to "escape" the immune system defenses.

    I think the answer will involve the health status of these people prior to infection and that more people are infected but the illness is so mild...they don't realize it...resulting in not getting tested for Covid.

    The latter is dangerous because it will then help exponential community spread...oddly...that's not happening so far. Yet, we're only early December...too soon to make community spread analysis.

    We'll have more answers in a few more weeks although something seems very odd in comparing Europe / South Africa against the United States. Yet, I doubt (maybe I'm wrong) that we're doing a good job here in North America in keeping the infection to only several individuals without or with very little community spread.

    Could the United States and Canada be so protected from vaccines that Omicron is not able to spread here after infecting a handful of people ?

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    #126     Dec 3, 2021
  7. ipatent

    ipatent

    #127     Dec 3, 2021
  8. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Nobody is concerned about South Africa or Africa any more ???

    :rolleyes:

    The Omicron hospitalization surges over there are making headlines now because its sending children to the hospital.

    Lets hope the Omicron hospital surges there doesn't translate to here in North America.

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    #128     Dec 3, 2021
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Small sample size -- but still meaningful from a vaccine evasive data point for Omicron.

    Omicron: over half of England’s cases occurred after two Covid vaccine doses
    A new technical briefing from the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) said 12 of the 22 known cases in England had been double jabbed
    https://inews.co.uk/news/health/omicron-uk-covid-two-vaccine-doses-1333451
     
    #129     Dec 3, 2021
  10. Well, I stand corrected. And this does not sound like good news at all. :(
     
    #130     Dec 3, 2021