Neo-Cons Appear To Still Control Republican Candidates

newt is using religion win this election and he is a neocon. man you make it easy:

Newt Gingrich, a 2012 GOP presidential candidate and former ... A fellow at the neoconservative American Enterprise Institute



Newt’s Neocon Army
When it comes to foreign policy, the Republican frontrunner likes it old-school. Neo-old school.

We’ve had two foreign policy themed debates in the GOP primary now, which have provided ample opportunity to see what a Republican foreign policy would look like in 2013. And in the case of Newt Gingrich, it would probably look like a kind of neocon fantasy land.

Foreign Policy published an excellent rundown of Gingrich’s foreign policy advising team, most of whom “have known Newt for decades, and see themselves as helping a candidate who already boasts a long track record and well-formed intellectual identity when it comes to foreign policy.”

Here’s a taste of World Team Gingrich:

David Wurmser: Gingrich’s Middle East policy adviser was a notorious member of Vice President Cheney’s inner circle that pushed the U.S. into war in Iraq. Once he was questioned during an espionage probe while in the vice president’s office, and he was one of the names driving the initial support for the later disgraced Ahmed Chalabi. Asked by the Daily Telegraph in 2007 if he was a neocon, he offered this: “There’s nothing ‘neo’ about me. I’m a very medieval sort of guy.”

James Woosley: A former director of the CIA, Woolsey recently spoke at a panel hosted by the founder of Judicial Watch focused on President Obama’s “political jihad promoting Islam around the world.” Woolsey is a serious Iran hawk, warning that the way the West is dealing with the nation at the moment “rhymes with what was taking place in the 1930s [with Nazi Germany]”. Woolsey is a Democrat (of the Lieberman school) but he’s helped Republicans running for president before. In 2008, he advised John McCain.

Stephen Yates: Another ex-Cheney national security team member, Yates is known among other things for his work on China. One former U.S. ambassador to China familiar with Yates says he views “China as the solution to ‘enemy deprivation syndrome.’” As Counterpunch explained the theory, “You need some unifying enemy after the collapse of the Soviet Union.” Not exactly the most productive way to view one of America’s most important trading partner, perhaps.

It’s not just Gingrich who’s dipping in the neocon well to form a national security strategy. Rick Perry, who was once the frontrunner before descending out of view like so many before him, leaned on former Donald Rumsfeld deputy Doug Feith, best known for pushing the Al queda-Iraq connection in the run up to the Iraq War and being called by former Gen. Tommy Franks “the f***ing stupidest guy on the face of the earth.”




http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...neocon-army.php

 

Well, Mav is still a bit of a youngster, so he gets somewhat of a pass. He will figure it out at some point....or not

It is like shooting fish in a barrel, and come the second Wednesday in November, they will all herald the End of America. And they will be right, it will be the end of America as they knew, and good riddance to the racist, homophobic, sexist, fundamentalist America. She is better than that, and is finally rising above it.

 

And Mav, please tell me you are NOT about to trot out the JOOOOS argument. That will pretty much seal it for you, buddy.

 

Yeah really, I'd rather read RCG's argument about how evil whitey is.

 

Vhehn, here is an excellent description of the neo-cons.

http://www.newoxfordreview.org/article.jsp?did=1205-editorial

Authentic neocons descend from the Communist and socialist movements, with the most prominent leaders being Trotskyites (that is, ultra-Left Communists). When Stalin took over the Soviet Union, the Trotskyites were severely persecuted, and ultimately Trotsky himself was assassinated in Mexico. Stalin was a gentile (indeed, an ex-seminarian) and Trotsky was a Jew, and the divide between the Stalinists and Trotskyites pretty much followed the same divide (with significant exceptions, especially in the early years of the Soviet satellite states in Eastern Europe, before many of the Jews in those satellite states were purged from the Party, even executed).

Continued...

http://www.newoxfordreview.org/article.jsp?did=1205-editorial

 

Here is a rundown from wikipedia


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

 

Agreed. In 2008 the choice was Obama vs. McCain. I believe in limited, Constitutional government, so big government Obama was out. But McCain was hot to trot for a war with Iran, voted for the Patriot Act, and was pure 100% neocon. So I voted for a third party candidate. I fear the same scenario will repeat itself in 2012. If the Republicans nominate another neocon, as seems 95% likely, Obama will have a second term.

However, there is at least one person who likes neocons -- Trader666.

 

First, presidential elections are choices between two candidates, not a referendum on nirvana. If the choice is between the worst republican candidate, probably Santorum or Gingrich from my perspective, I would vote for him without hesitation over Obama.

Their foreign policy would not be all that different from Obama's, except hopefully they would be wiser than to pull the rug from long time allies in places like Egypt and hand them over to islamists. Their domestic policies would be far better. Plus, I doubt they would engage in the sort of crude social divisiveness that has become Obama's main argument.

Second, John McCain had far more negatives than any of the current candidates. If he had been elected however, two far left mediocrities named Sotomayor and Kagan would not be sitting on the Supreme Court and there would be no Obamacare for them to rule on. So while I might differ with the neocon foreign policy, Obama is such a repulsive alternative there really is no choice but to go along.

 

then dont whine about getting into another war with iran this time. that is exactly what your boys are promising they will do.

 

I guess you just returned to earth from a long term space voyage so I'll give you a pass. But the cold harsh reality is that your messiah Obama is a war mongering Neo-Con himself.