Need help trading "size" in the NQ's

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by jester, Mar 22, 2003.

  1. Probably a good person to ask is Aaron. He trades in bigger size lots so has experience with the liquidity of the market ect.
     
    #21     Mar 31, 2003
  2. bone

    bone

    If you start out trading NQs at 300-500 a pop with your level of experience, that $500K should last two... maybe... three days.
     
    #22     Mar 31, 2003
  3. Maybe a bit conservative for someone trading their own money but safe. You can move a 500 lot instantly but not at the market. Look at market depth to get an idea how far down you would have to go to get filled.
     
    #23     Mar 31, 2003
  4. There are position and trade size limits but I don't know what they are. You may be close with 500 though.
     
    #24     Mar 31, 2003
  5. Why did you choose the 2.5??

    thanks in advance.
     
    #25     Apr 1, 2003
  6. Ebo

    Ebo

    It was only hypothetical.
    How many points a day do you make on the average?
    My only point was you can make a nice living trading with constant singles and doubles. There is no need to put $500K at risk to have a respectable ROI.
     
    #26     Apr 1, 2003
  7. I do not trade the NQ.

    Both my equities and commodities algorithms are capital limited as I apply them.

    I agree with you on makng a nice income with small or moderate capital. Actually inital capital is not omportant at all in terms of how small you can start and wind up very rich. Several people here definitely have hardons about what I think is possible. I am glad you are not getting the same flak.

    The NQ would yield about 80 plus points today on 5 contracts.
     
    #27     Apr 1, 2003
  8. Ebo

    Ebo

    Thanks Jack!

    As long as nobody gets hurt in the process.
    I am a firm believer in strict risk management.
    Much rather make a little than lose a lot.
     
    #28     Apr 1, 2003
  9. If you have a proven, successfully tested edge, the only restrictions that one should be concerned with is liquidity with respect to the time frame which your edge applies and a sound money management system.

    If your system is designed to scalp a few points at a time, trading a couple hundred contracts will turn you into a bull in a china shop. If your system is designed to catch intermediate turns on the 60min chart, by all means learn how to scale in and go for it.

    Everyone has different risk profiles to consider, but what it all boils down to is your edge: do you really have one? If one truly has an edge, he or she should seek to apply as much leverage as possible within the constraints of liquidity and sound money management vs account size. The corollary is getting an 11 in blackjack -- the only factors which would cause you NOT to double down would be a significant reduction in your edge (a very negative deck count and dealer with face card showing, for example), not the size of your bet or bankroll.
     
    #29     Apr 1, 2003
  10. First term: VAR
    Second term: Fixed Ratio
    Good Luck with the 500K, if i were you i wouldn't worry about liquidity at the moment.
    Worry about everything else FIRST!
    If you were really serious about moving 500 NQ contracts with a 500K account, you will last less than a week as I see you are a beginner.
    NOTE: 500 NQ is moving $15,000,000 worth of NQ.
    Needless to say you can be wiped out at the first spike.
     
    #30     Apr 1, 2003