Need advice from experienced investors!

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by tennisplayer23, Aug 30, 2015.

Is DRIP a reliable way of investing for retirement?

  1. Yes, you will not regret it

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  2. Yes, (other advice please post)

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  3. No, you are better off going with real estate

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  4. No, growth stocks/etfs will yield better results

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  5. No, what if a company goes bankrupt

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  1. loyek590

    loyek590

    asset allocation is superior to timing IMHO
     
    #41     Sep 1, 2015
  2. qxr1011

    qxr1011

    not even close imho
     
    #42     Sep 1, 2015
  3. qxr1011

    qxr1011

    all those approaches: asset allocation, diversification, dollar cost averages, are invented by the Wall Srеeet just to attract the average investor which, we agree, is a sucker

    but all suckers need a dream

    sometime certifiable dream

    so here goes another dream :)

    i am done here
     
    #43     Sep 1, 2015
  4. ABSOFRICKIN'LUTELY!

    The concept of "market timing" is poo-poo'd all around. But unless you "inherit stock from your Aunt Martha and it passes to your kids in your estate"... you are a market timer. Whether you hold for hours/days/weeks or decades... you're a timer.

    Warren Buffet buys companies when he sees them as "value-priced", then sells them later at a higher price (hopefully). THAT'S MARKET TIMING! It's not "scalping", but still "timing".
     
    #44     Sep 1, 2015
  5. loyek590

    loyek590

    very few long term investors will enhance their return by timing. No different than short term trading. Probably 95% get it wrong.
     
    #45     Sep 1, 2015
  6. In the long run, DCA is just a form of "buy-and-hold". Any benefit from it is potentially seen in the early years when the $$ accumulations are small. Greater benefit, however, in high-volatility markets.

    Almost without regard to investment performance is the benefit of accumulating capital... for which there is little substitute beyond inheritance or lucking-out in the lotto.
     
    #46     Sep 1, 2015
  7. loyek590

    loyek590

    what's the alternative to DCA? Put $300 in your money market each month until you have 5k and wait for an opportunity and then go all in? My guess is everytime you save up 5k an "opportunity" will just miraculously appear.
     
    #47     Sep 1, 2015
  8. qxr1011

    qxr1011

    sure

    but buy and hold what?

    American market

    because it was one that was growing steadily and only on the growing market buy and hold works

    but as you correctly pointed:there are just growth periods

    and that applies not only to the companies but to the markets as well

    so when the period of long growth will end, and it will end, or it will have some prolong correction.. buy and hold will stop working, along with other gimmicks

    the problem is market has life that is much longer that of a man, market will improve but by that time our young friend will be 6 feet under...

    so if this generation will be unlucky to live in the prolong period of zero or negative growth,, at the end they will have zilch...

    period
     
    #48     Sep 1, 2015
  9. qxr1011

    qxr1011

    as for accumulating capital

    its is very possible that for this generation it maybe better to accumulate it under the mattress in the form of gold coins

    which again bring us to the point of investing since gold is just another vehicle..


    again nothing wrong with accumulation just one should not forget that any form of accumulation is investment in itself and require the method deciding in which vehicle to accumulate.. and when to switch from one instrument to another

    coming back to a need for an investment method...
    which again average investor does not have
     
    Last edited: Sep 1, 2015
    #49     Sep 1, 2015
  10. qxr1011

    qxr1011

    but that does not warrant protection against confiscation.... from which Uncle Sam was one step away in the 30-th
     
    #50     Sep 1, 2015