Need 10:1 Leverage

Discussion in 'Prop Firms' started by trader220, Sep 15, 2017.

  1. trader220

    trader220

    Hello Traders,

    I am an experienced trader seeking to change prop firms. Does anyone know if there exists a firm that can provide approximately $250K of margin on a $25K deposit? I trade ES and need to hold 40 contracts overnight on a daily basis. My $25K will assume first loss.

    I am looking for a favorable split and $0 office fees as I will trade from home.

    Thanks in advance for any help.
     
  2. So... you want somebody to back you... to leverage $25K equity on a $5,000,000 overnight position... where a 1/2% price hiccup wipes you out? "Experienced trader" or not, what are you... nuts?
     
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  3. speedo

    speedo

    Yep, that's 200-1 leverage not 10-1.
     
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  4. That's even more stupid than LTCM's, "PhD's behind it, 100-1 leveraged play". We all know how those "big brains" fared.
     
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  5. trader220

    trader220

    No offense guys, but I'm looking for answers from traders.

    For the experienced guys let me just add, I've talked to a few of the firms, and most of them have prohibitive desk fees. If anyone has any names I haven't considered yet, would be grateful if you could share.
     
  6. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    One more sign a major pullback is on the way............
     
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  7. Surely you realize the paradoxical nature of your quest.

    That is, "nobody is going to back you on 200:1 leverage overnight" because anyone stupid enough to do that is not longer in business.
     
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  8. i have a simulator i can... er... i mean, yeah.. i can back you.
     
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  9. comagnum

    comagnum

    People used to tell me when I was in my 30's the way I trade would give them a heart attack, now that I am in my 50's I say to you ' the way you trade would give me a heart attack'.
     
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  10. If you are willing to deposit $25,000 firms (some that are sponsors on here so they can chime in) will offer you $500 margins at night. So with $25,000 you can hold 50 contracts. With each ES around $125,000 in value you would be trading $6.25m in notional value. Simple math an $500 margins with 125,000 value is 250x leverage. Wow. Crazy they offer this leverage at night but call them...
     
    #10     Sep 15, 2017