Near Death Experiences (NDE's)

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ShoeshineBoy, Jan 27, 2004.

  1. I've met the devil.

    Satan was a cool chick....

    Wait that was my ex...

    :D
     
    #51     Jan 27, 2004
  2. Sounds like a Near Death Experience to me....
     
    #52     Jan 27, 2004
  3. Turok

    Turok

    >Also, as I said 15% of NDErs have a very
    >negative experience.

    I'd be surprised if ALL of them didn't have a negative experience.

    JB
     
    #53     Jan 27, 2004

  4. interesting, shoeshine. perhaps there is more to the phenomena. i'll try to keep an open mind. did your friend fight the "dark figures" ??

    best,

    surfer:)
     
    #54     Jan 27, 2004
  5. From what I've read for most it is mostly a profound and "positive" experience. Many no longer fear death. Child experiencers generally have long lasting careers, long lasting marriages and high church attendance compared to the general population.
     
    #55     Jan 27, 2004
  6. Nope - there was no fighting it. It was the classic dark figures leading someone downward into "the pit". Again, this was terrifying for her because she was a Christian.

    According to one researcher, those who have a lot of fear regarding the afterlife are much more likely to have a negative NDE experience. If that's true, that potentially supports my hypothesis that the first part of the NDE experience is preset archetypal subconscious and/or spiritual imagery...

    But I can tell you that if I had told this person what I just wrote, she would have been very offended and would absolutely have insisted it was real!
     
    #56     Jan 27, 2004
  7. Turok

    Turok

    Me:
    >I'd be surprised if ALL of them didn't have a
    >negative experience.

    Shoe:
    >From what I've read for most it is mostly
    >a profound and "positive" experience

    It was a play on words relating to the fact that they had been near death...not someplace we usually wish to spend much time.

    And on the serious side, I would somewhat expect people who have been near death to have fuller lives then others whence returned. I think even being closely involved in someone elses death can inspire one regarding what is important in life.

    JB
     
    #57     Jan 27, 2004
  8. One nice thing about NDE research: the researchers are generally very qualified and to me seem honest about (as far as one can tell) in revealing weaknesses.

    Example: one researcher admitted the ketamine results freely but then showed why he/she thought it did not invalidate the research he/she had done. To me it seems very nonsensational, but then I'm not a materialist...
     
    #58     Jan 27, 2004
  9. True. Of course I'm sure that plays a significant factor. Near death for anyone is a "wake up call".

    But the impressions I get is that the NDE experience is the prime mover...
     
    #59     Jan 27, 2004
  10. Turok

    Turok

    >But the impressions I get is that the NDE experience
    >is the prime mover...

    I was intimately involved in a friends death a few years ago. After a bit of paralysis, believe me...it was a prime mover.

    JB
     
    #60     Jan 27, 2004