Neanderthals vs. "Science"

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tsing Tao, Apr 1, 2021.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Yeah... because so many people in Chile live in the steep inaccessible mountains.

    'Roughly 90% of Chile’s population live in cities and bigger towns. Chile’s capital, Santiago, is the undisputed center of the country, with almost one-third of the population settled there" The population density is clustered in just a few cities.
     
    #881     Jan 25, 2022
  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    So show the statistics of Chile's cities. Pick Santiago. Where are the cases per 1M pop? Let's see the apples-to-apples. You might actually be correct, and Florida is worse off.

    This still doesn't change a single thing about the chart that shows a high percentage vax country with a strong mask mandate has a massive spike in cases, showing yet again that these things don't do anything to stop COVID.

    It also doesn't change that you - GWB - told us we had to compare like geographies, peoples and cultures, and then turn around to compare Chile to Florida. LOL

    The Neanderthals win again.
     
    #882     Jan 25, 2022
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So bottom line - Florida is overrun with Omicron because of its lack of proper public health measures and average vaccination rate in the middle of a pandemic. Yeah, we get why comparing Florida to any location with sane public health policies never pans out for you -- so you need to whine that they are no equivalent somehow.
     
    #883     Jan 25, 2022
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Actually, the bottom line is that the chart posted is 100% accurate, represents the truth, and you know this. That's why you pivoted to making it about Florida, but then when asked to provide apples to apples info on Chilean cities, are unable to do so.

    Sadly, the bottom line here is that you lack basic critical thinking skills and are following a narrative.

    As usual.
     
    #884     Jan 25, 2022
  5. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    But....Florida!

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    #885     Jan 25, 2022
  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    But what about Florida??

     
    #886     Jan 25, 2022
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So South Korea currently has a mere 7200 cases per day with a population 51.8 million. Let's compare this to Florida.

    Seems to any rational person who can do basic math that very crowded South Korea is doing much better in controlling Covid cases than Florida.

    And South Korea peaked at a mere 60 deaths per day... How many hundreds of deaths per day did Florida peak at.
     
    #887     Jan 25, 2022
  8. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    It's like your head is filled with concrete. You can't even tell when people are laughing at you.

    Anything you want to say about Florida (and I couldn't care less, honestly) has nothing at all to do with me showing chart after chart after chart after chart of examples where highly vaccinated countries and states with extremely strong mask mandates have the exact same virus curve as states that did not.

    End of story.

    Oh, and this, of course:

     
    #888     Jan 25, 2022
  9. piezoe

    piezoe

    How can you explain the infection rate difference between Chile and Florida on the basis of a population density computed by dividing total area into population! You can't! People are never distributed uniformly. And if you used surface rather than geodesic area to compare Florida with Chile your result would be even more absurd. I would guess Chile has a somewhat higher population density than Florida.

    What's is interesting is that Japan had, in comparison with the U.S., a low vaccination rate (though this is changing), a significantly higher population density and an almost universal conformity to mask wearing in public; far better than in the U.S. (The masks there are not all N95 by any means.) Yet Japan had, and continues to have, a significantly lower infection rate than the U.S.) I regard the lower transmission rate in Japan as due to high conformance to mask wearing. It appears that masks do, indeed, work. If they don't seem to, it is most likely due to poor conformance.
     
    #889     Jan 25, 2022
  10. piezoe

    piezoe

    In the U.S., mandates are not the same as conformance. In Japan and Germany maybe, but not in the U.S. And, no, of course you can't do what you say you've done, not without cherry picking the time periods, States and Countries and confusing the "shape" of the virus curve with the infection rates it represents. Pay attention to the scale of the y-axis. Two of these curves can have the same general shape and one represent significantly higher infection rate than the other depending on the numbers on the y-axis.
     
    #890     Jan 25, 2022