Neanderthals vs. "Science"

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tsing Tao, Apr 1, 2021.

  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    The spike came because of the new variant, I agree. But either lockdowns work or they don't. And if there is a place where lockdowns were more severe than Australia, please show that place to me. And the point of the chart has nothing to do with a new variant. Despite massive lockdowns (as indicated in the chart) the virus still did what a virus does.

    That is the only point.

    If you want to discuss comparisons (which is where you went in the argument) then we can. But that isn't the same point as the chart was trying to make (that lockdowns don't do anything but >possibly< delay the virus response - but the virus is coming no matter what you lock down).
     
    #741     Dec 15, 2021
  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

     
    #742     Dec 15, 2021
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    "It’s almost as if population density is a thing and looking at raw numbers vs per capita still alludes people. It’s what a million+ difference?"

     
    #743     Dec 15, 2021
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Ah. So population density effects mask mandates and vaccine mandates, then? Is that what you are admitting to?
     
    #744     Dec 15, 2021
  5. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    We are told from GWB_NPC that because Twitter and Facebook mark someone as "misleading" then they are ensuring truth is told. Twitter and Facebook are "the experts" on what is right or wrong. sCiENcE!

     
    #745     Dec 15, 2021
  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    More on Australia. Despite such draconian restrictions of fining anyone who is unvaccinated caught outside, cases continue to rise.

     
    #746     Dec 15, 2021
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    #747     Dec 15, 2021
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You do realize that the lockdowns in some regions in Australia ended in early October. And in recent days the restrictions have now been removed in NSW and other territories so vaccinated and the unvaccinated will follow the same set of rules. "The use of QR code check-ins will be scaled back and masks required only in certain high-risk settings."

    This is because the lockdowns by region and restrictions in Australia have worked and the cases are now in steep decline. Hence the restrictions can be rolled back -- this is how proper public health policy driven by data works.

    Australia-cases-Dec-15-2021.jpg
     
    #748     Dec 15, 2021
  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    So you're saying the lockdowns in some regions ended, and the numbers started to decline? Because that's what your data shows.

    Another point for the Neanderthals!
     
    #749     Dec 15, 2021
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Once again -- after lockdowns and restrictions break the Covid wave and cause a steep decline in cases then you can ease up on the restrictions -- this is how proper public health policy driven by data works and is applied. If a new wave of cases occur then you will need to apply the restrictions again. This is especially true in Australia which has a "zero Covid" policy.
     
    #750     Dec 15, 2021