Neanderthals vs. "Science"

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tsing Tao, Apr 1, 2021.

  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    And my personal favorite, the Covid Republic of Australia. Never a better example of tEh sCiEnCe and how stupid-ass decisions have done nothing for a country.

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    #531     Aug 27, 2021
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  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So how does their cases per 100,000 compare to Florida? How does their deaths compare to Florida? Please enlighten us.

    Note that Australia has a zero-tolerance COVID strategy.
     
    #532     Aug 27, 2021
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    COVID Prediction Model Forecasts 100K Virus Deaths by December, Could Be Halved With Masks
    https://www.newsweek.com/covid-pred...us-deaths-december-could-halved-masks-1623428

    A national forecasting model has projected that the U.S. will hit almost 100,000 COVID-19 deaths by December 1, but health experts advise that number could be reduced by half if everyone wears a mask in public places.

    That means the future outcome of coronavirus on the population falls on the choices Americans make over the next few months.

    "Behavior is really going to determine if, when and how sustainably the current wave subsides," said Lauren Ancel Meyers, director of the University of Texas COVID-19 Modeling Consortium. "We cannot stop delta in its tracks, but we can change our behavior overnight."

    Meyers added that reinforcing mask-wearing, social distancing, isolating when sick and getting vaccinated can make a difference.

    "Those things are within our control," Meyers said.
     
    #533     Aug 27, 2021
  4. jem

    jem

    Yeah your links there are a bit tricky... and depends on what you consider to be risks and how you weigh them...

    ... but we now know its much safer to rely on natural immunity if you already had covid...

    And the studies show many more us had Covid than we knew. Could be 2 to 5 times more...

    (Depending on the time frames.... the studies have looked at)




     
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    #534     Aug 27, 2021
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  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Seeing that there are 38.6 Million proven U.S. Covid cases. And there are an estimated 3 infections for each proven Covid case. It is hardly surprising that the total number of estimated infections and cases in the U.S. total about 130 to 150 million --- or about a third of our U.S. population. I have walked though the math on this multiple times and what it means for "herd immunity" for the U.S. -- I suggest you go back and read one of my posts.

    https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/meet-the-covid-delta-variant.359692/page-52#post-5433392
     
    #535     Aug 27, 2021
  6. jem

    jem

    Please Tell us when you first posted that there were 3x as many infections as proven cases. With a link.




     
    #536     Aug 27, 2021
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #537     Aug 27, 2021
  8. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    Fauci has demonstrated unequivocally that he is lethally incompetent.

    Fauci needs to be shamefully fired immediately.
     
    #538     Aug 27, 2021
  9. jem

    jem

    well that was a big step for you...
    but I see you just made a bunch of shit up to obfuscate the importance.

    a. You don't need to have detected antibodies to be immune... in fact the easier the infection was for you to fight... the less likely the tests will detect antibodies. (per the studies we have both read.)

    Which also means we could have had 3 to maybe 10 times as many people infected by Covid... if grant that 3 times as many had detectable antibodies.


    "Studies have shown that only 60% of people who caught COVID have antibody levels which provide immunity after 6 months. This means that 40% of people who caught COVID are not immune. This implies that only 76.8 Million of the people who caught COVID would have natural herd immunity in the U.S."



     
    #539     Aug 27, 2021
  10. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    How do their freedoms compare to Florida?

    We're not being arrested for not wearing masks. We're allowed outside for longer than an hour for exercise a day. You know, that kinda stuff.
     
    #540     Aug 27, 2021