Neanderthals vs. "Science"

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tsing Tao, Apr 1, 2021.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Why don't you compare Vermont deaths per 100K to states with lower vaccination rates. You can get back to us with the results.
     
    #1211     Jun 13, 2022
  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    But I thought we were told that the vaccine prevented you from getting COVID? I posted that in the COVID fact check, but the fact checker was mysteriously absent.
     
    #1212     Jun 13, 2022
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    First -- being vaccinated prevents serious illness and death from Covid. The death rate for the unvaccinated is more than 20 times that of the vaccinated in most studies. Similarly as outlined in studies vaccination reduces the transmission of Covid but does not stop it. This is primarily due to the very infectious Omicron variant which is vaccine evasive. Prior to the Omicron variant appearing the vaccinated breakthrough rate was a merely 0.5% of the Covid vaccine.

    Just remember that over 95% of those with severe Covid gasping for their last breaths in hospitals are unvaccinated. Sadly the medical staff typically needs to deal with the other anti-vax family members who insist the patients must be treated with horse paste and other useless remedies.
     
    #1213     Jun 13, 2022
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    But wait a second, are you saying that these quotes were not true?

    "You’re not going to get Covid if you get these vaccinations.” -Joe Biden

    “When people are vaccinated they can feel safe that they are not going to get infected.” -Anthony Fauci

    “Vaccinated people do not carry the virus. Don’t get sick.” -Rochelle Walensky"
     
    #1214     Jun 13, 2022
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Sadly people failing to get vaccinated world-wide continues to generate new variants. This includes the very infectious Omicron variant which is evasive of the current vaccines. Fortunately both Moderna and Pfizer are working on a Omicron-specific booster which will likely be available this fall. All the above statements were made prior to Omicron -- at a time when the vaccinated breakthrough rate was a mere 0.5% -- and they were true at the time they were stated.
     
    #1215     Jun 13, 2022
  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    So wait a second. If they were true only at the time before Omicron, why were the same individuals pushing the vaccine afterwards when they knew it wouldn't stop you from getting sick? Or even now?

    Please show the breakthrough COVID cases by month to back up your claim that it was a mere .5% during last summer.
     
    #1216     Jun 13, 2022
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The vaccine is still very effective at preventing serious illness and death -- even during this era of Omicron. Over 95% of the deaths are still unvaccinated.

    The information from KFF and the CDC showing vaccinate breakthrough rates by state prior to Omicron was posted many times previously. Feel free to look up some of the numerous posts.
     
    #1217     Jun 13, 2022
  8. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    "Go look"

    I suppose "go look" is also the answer supporting the "over 95% of the deaths are still unvaccinated"?
     
    #1218     Jun 13, 2022
  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

     
    #1219     Jun 13, 2022
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    That is from 2021, not 2022.
     
    #1220     Jun 13, 2022