stu? he only popped up on religion and science threads. He took uniformed stances about the state of science and I disabused him of those stances. Early on I was telling him that the physical laws of our universe appear to be very fined tuned to the point that if there is only one universe there is no way it could have evolved by random chance. I explained that if you want to believe random chance enabled our universe to form as it has.. the best minds in science tell us then you have to believe in almost infinite other universes. Stu... denied that for years. Now there are numerous books on the subject of the finely tuned constants... so I doubt stu still maintains such an ignorant stance.