Natural trader ..

Discussion in 'Trading' started by eves_banished_children, May 24, 2018.

  1. Cswim63

    Cswim63

    I was taught by a guy that was a big fan of the psychologist Erickson. He told me there were four personality types, Rational, Sensing, Emotional, and Intuitive. Now it's just a theory. But he- they separate Intuitive and Emotional. Rational he said was about 70 percent of the population. Less than 10 percent of the population is Intuitive. However they make up an overwhelming percent of CEOs. He also said that it's just your dominant trait. You still have the others. Again, just a theory. Need to read up on Erickson again.
     
    #51     May 27, 2018
  2. Cswim63

    Cswim63

    Sorry it's Erikson. Erickson is a boat.
     
    #52     May 27, 2018
  3. Sprout

    Sprout

    Ok. Sounds like the perfect soldier.

    Still, I wonder what he’d feel when put in front of a beautiful woman that he perceives to be completely out of his league or if his children went missing.

    Fear is contextual.
     
    #53     May 27, 2018
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  4. Sprout

    Sprout

    Imho, better to go with Milton’s original work on conversational hypnosis. He focused more on trance states and the use of story and metaphor to invite behavioral change. He was a big influence on the development of NLP. Of the personality types you mention, those are descriptions of Dominant characteristics not the exclusion of characteristics.

    In NLP terms, as primary modes of processing being - visual, auditory or kinesthetic. The modes are uniquely sequenced on an individual basis. Even though one has a primary sequence memories can be coded in alternative sequences.
     
    #54     May 27, 2018
  5. jl1575

    jl1575

    Ego is fine if he/she has the capacity to match it.
     
    #55     May 27, 2018
  6. Cswim63

    Cswim63

    It's been awhile since I was exposed to NLP. Sometimes I'll still notice that, for instance, I get angry at very shrill sounds or people. Noise. Or that I'm storing information about the market visually. Also I'll notice that before a market is about to fall or if there is confusion I'll sense darkness. Needs more work. Sometimes I'll get feelings throughout my body before a big move. Nausea. Agitation.
     
    #56     May 27, 2018
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  7. Cswim63

    Cswim63

    Ok it was Milton Erickson, the American. Reading now. Erikson was German, different theories. It's kind of like Economics. You don't like this theory, we have another one for you.
     
    #57     May 27, 2018
  8. The difference between intuition and feelings is something I considered when I wrote what I wrote, I thought someone might point that out and I feel intuition isn't an "emotion" really, but a mental hunch, a kind of intellectual exercise in decision making. I think you can be intuitive without any emotion, and I would again use soldiers as an example .. certainly they make intuitive decisions about where to go, what to do, where the enemy is likely to be, and yet they still value keeping their emotions (fear, sadness, homesickness, etc) out of that kind of decision making.

    If we start arguing over the definitions of "emotions" vs "intellect" etc instead of just using commonly understood meanings for those words, it's probably pointless to even talk about, not that it isn't pointless anyway, of course.

    To the point of "coolness under fire" I think you're agreeing with me. What you said about "serving the higher order", I don't see that as any different than serving the purpose of market gains, etc .. again, it'll be pointless if it degenerates into "well, wanting a market gain is an emotion ...", etc. I think we all know basically what we mean by thinking vs feeling, even if the words are blunt instruments.
     
    #58     May 27, 2018
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  9. Cswim63

    Cswim63

    At the level of intuition, it's hard to know if it's a feeling or thought, and where it manifests in the body. Decision making is thought, intuition comes from somewhere else. During hypnosis or meditation you're going to have thought come through, but there are differences in what you do with it. If you keep following it, then it's a thought, if you let it pass you're still meditating. Subtle but important difference.
     
    #59     May 27, 2018
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  10. Simples

    Simples

    Any real decision-making is heavily dependent on emotion. You can automate decision trees, but it is not primarily how humans operate, and is not a decision, but merely a look-up. This also backed by studies on brain injuries where people unable to feel emotions are also unable to decide even very basic decisions. So emotions are fundamental to human being.

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/feeling-our-way-to-decision-20090227-8k8v.html
     
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    #60     May 27, 2018
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