Natural trader ..

Discussion in 'Trading' started by eves_banished_children, May 24, 2018.

  1. Cswim63

    Cswim63

    I didn't say that you should throw the computer at the clock. Maybe you confuse feelings with actions? Children don't like what they are feeling and act out.
     
    #41     May 27, 2018
    CSEtrader likes this.
  2. Cswim63

    Cswim63

    It isn't the emotions you experience that cause the problem. It's the ones you don't want to or can't. If you have trouble with loss or greif you're probably going to set up dramas where you keep experiencing loss. The floor traders I knew in Chicago used to say "You have to learn to love to lose". I never knew what they meant.
     
    #42     May 27, 2018
    CSEtrader and Sprout like this.
  3. Cswim63

    Cswim63

    The easiest way to manumanipu someone is to threaten to make them feel something they don't want to feel. The advertising industry wouldn't exist without this. See Vance Packard, The Hidden Persuaders. Old book but still relevant.
     
    #43     May 27, 2018
  4. That's a good point and an important distinction.

    Still, I think it's good to think of it in terms of .. say, a military conflict. It does a soldier on the battlefield absolutely no good to "experience their emotions". What soldiers need in the midst of combat is what they call "coolness under fire", generally, the less emotions the better, more critical thinking, using intellect and intuition, being able to act w/o regard to how you feel about that action, etc. It does no good to feel emotions when trying to make decisions like that. That's why I like algorithms, they take "me" out of it (for the most part), because it really shouldn't matter how I feel, because my feelings about the market are irrelevant.

     
    #44     May 27, 2018
  5. Cswim63

    Cswim63

    That obviously should say manipulate. I don't know why the spell check does that.
     
    #45     May 27, 2018
  6. Cswim63

    Cswim63

    I did meet an old colonel who said he had no fear in combat. It was weird because he talked about being ambushed and cut off in Vietnam like it was a good football game he played in. Actually he volounteered for combat after being in Korea. So there's an example of a natural.
     
    #46     May 27, 2018
  7. Sprout

    Sprout


    The emotion that was Dominant for him was not fear, more of duty, honor and whatever else was trained into soldiers to overcome the fear of mortally risky situations.

    With all due respect to those whom served in the military, the only natural born killers are psychopaths and sociopaths.
     
    #47     May 27, 2018
    CSEtrader, vanzandt and tommcginnis like this.
  8. Cswim63

    Cswim63

    Well, I met him when he was 80 at a certain 12 step program. One of the steps asks members to list their fears on a piece of paper. He looked me straight in the eye and said that he didn't have any. He said everyone kept telling him he had to have some, but he didn't. When I asked him about why he reenlisted in the army after Korea, he said he tried to teach school but found there was no freedom and it was too regimented. For real! Haha. He said he probably would have made General but he was too creative and didn't do things by the book. Anyway he said his biggest regret was he never got to do a beach landing at night, which he always wanted to do. So I don't think duty much to do with it. It was fun for him.
     
    #48     May 27, 2018
  9. Simples

    Simples

    The difference may be learnt during a lifetime, how to channel emotions into constructive outcomes, and how to control thoughts in order to gain life mastery. Prerequisite is the maturity to be able to allow and acknowledge them in the first place.
     
    #49     May 27, 2018
    Sprout likes this.
  10. Sprout

    Sprout


    The military analogy can also be interpreted as The Dominant emotional state is one that “serving the higher order” overrides any notion of individual safety at the expense of their comrade in arms.


    It depends on what one bases their feelings upon. There are things within our control and that which we have no control over.

    You bring up the distinction of intuition in the same sentence as critical thinking. Many would consider intuition is in the domain of feelings which is an emotional experience not a mental one.
     
    #50     May 27, 2018
    CSEtrader likes this.