Natty

Discussion in 'Commodity Futures' started by PAPA ROACH, Oct 29, 2008.

  1. Any of you guys trade otc natty?
     
    #141     Dec 9, 2008
  2. pwrtrdr

    pwrtrdr

    Did- you have to know the CL market- because the out of control funds spread NG/CL/HO and move NG intraday, hence VOl blows up in NG


    Funny thing the correlation ng/cl should not be high or enough to trade, but DB and the rest of the analyst promote the spread- maybe why DB blew put in commod' this year
     
    #142     Dec 9, 2008
  3. a lot of LNG supply contracts are long term.. anyway imports at places like lake charles and cove point have dropped like a rock
     
    #143     Dec 9, 2008
  4. whats the mkt scenario where the u/v/x fly end up at >0.3 like it did in 2006? curious to hear ur thots... agree this mkt sucks but i think there will be more convergence to the historicals as we near settle for these cnts
     
    #144     Dec 9, 2008
  5. pwrtrdr

    pwrtrdr

    No idea, I think that would be as random as todays range !
     
    #145     Dec 9, 2008
  6. agree.. think im reading too much in the sep leg. its the v/x. the mkt seems to think we'll have plenty of gas in stg come april. not a bad assumption by any means but im just not sure i got the stomach for the bumpy ride ahead
     
    #146     Dec 9, 2008
  7. pwrtrdr

    pwrtrdr

    Yes. need a lot of "staying power" in the gas market. It can get run up or down on large paper traders in a hurry since the banks are not providing the liquidity they once did.

    Unless we have unusually cold winter, march will tank relative to April IMO. So far winter is not unusual and demand is slack.

    When the curve was very very high, many producers hedged and are not so price sensitive, so we will see plenty of gas despite slack demand I think.
     
    #147     Dec 10, 2008
  8. pwrtrdr

    pwrtrdr

    the "fly" I assume butterfly-

    I always see Vol traders trying to sell holiday and buy "new year"- possibl this is what is happening in this spread ????
     
    #148     Dec 10, 2008
  9. pwrtrdr

    pwrtrdr

    5.14 and lower

    Draw was weak today- demand issue

    CL bounce on short covering.
     
    #149     Dec 11, 2008
  10. 5.14 by...?
     
    #150     Dec 11, 2008