Nat Spreads

Discussion in 'Commodity Futures' started by PAPA ROACH, May 4, 2009.

  1. For "gas" traders everywhere-

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    #221     Nov 13, 2009
  2. lol...
     
    #222     Nov 16, 2009
  3. Today, I initiated a bit of +Z/-F at .38, initially targeting the .30 area for a quick .08 profit. We have been warm with nothing but warm in the forecasts. Cash has been weak as it should, we are very well supplied. However, I am seeing signs of some stealthy cold air coming down for a week or so that will likely give us a short term little tightening.

    Good luck
     
    #223     Nov 16, 2009
  4. In summary, my current position holdings in spreads:

    +Z/-F at -.38 (short term)

    -F/+G at -.072 (short to intermediate term)

    +H/-J at avg. of .079 (long term)

    -V/+X at -.35 (long term)
     
    #224     Nov 16, 2009
  5. Added more +Z/-F at -.36 this morning. Seeing a pattern shift to a colder look coming for the end of the month into early Dec, in the true realm of things, considering storage and all, it isn't fundamentally bullish, however, it is a trading point and we have been down hard over the last month (from 6.00 to 4.28) without a correction.

    The balance of the month hub swap traded as wide as -1.505 yesterday, it has SCREAMED in to -.91 last. This is the swap that sets each day off of cash trading at the henry hub. -.91 means that it is trading at a price that is 91 cents discount to the Dec nymex.
     
    #225     Nov 17, 2009
  6. took profit on half of my +Z/-F at .345. Still like it to come in, but I had a nice size position on, so still riding a half position.
     
    #226     Nov 20, 2009
  7. bt116

    bt116

    That spread is all over the place today! Up trend seems to have finally taken hold a bit. You think there was a big short cover this am?
     
    #227     Nov 20, 2009
  8. Hard to say, but yes there has been quite a bit of volatility in that spread over the last few days. I think you are seeing bulls and bears fight over the 11-15 day forecast showing cold coming in for at least the first part of December, which should tighten cash up a bit, hence the spread coming in. My two-cents anyway.
     
    #228     Nov 20, 2009
  9. bt116

    bt116

    Did you take your whole Z/F/G fly off or just the Z/F part?
     
    #229     Nov 20, 2009
  10. Just the Z/F part. at this point I am treating them as seperate spreads rather than a fly, all in my prognostication of weather and how cash is going to act between the months.
     
    #230     Nov 20, 2009