Nat Spreads

Discussion in 'Commodity Futures' started by PAPA ROACH, May 4, 2009.

  1. Because Nat Gas is a local commodity, Crude oil is a global one. On paper, If you are a Oman Crude oil producer and the USD devalue against your currency you will ask for more dollars for your product, you don't have that problem with Natgas.

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    #171     Aug 13, 2009
  2. bone

    bone

    Nat Gas has been such a dog, and I don't see it getting any better any time soon. Look at the sell-off in the Sept-Oct calendar spread the past several days. Yeesh. Forecasts for record supplies this winter and a very cool summer (electricity peaking units) means every commercial long strips or inventory will continue with the dump mode.

    In terms of correlations, look at WTI and the Canadian dollar vs. the U.S. dollar.

    While crude is an an excellent flight-to-quality instrument for geopolitical events, it's very high correlation to the equity markets for the time being makes it a much weaker inflationary hedge than precious metals.
     
    #172     Aug 14, 2009
  3. SetDraw

    SetDraw

    #173     Aug 20, 2009
  4. bt116

    bt116

    Not that im 100% certain, but a friend of mine were discussing this article, and then a broker friend of his told him that they were actually covering a short position that the cftc told them was too large. right around the same time supposedly a 900k share short order of UNG came in. take that for what its worth.
     
    #174     Aug 20, 2009
  5. SetDraw

    SetDraw

    thanks bt116 for the color. story seems kind of strange though. why would they purchase $10 calls to hedge something that's trading $5.xx? the delta on those calls wouldn't hedge a large short position much.

    regardless, the selling as of late is relentless!
     
    #175     Aug 20, 2009
  6. nat / oil spread traders on suicide watch
     
    #176     Aug 20, 2009
  7. bt116

    bt116

    youre speaking strictly of traders who spread nat gas to oil i presume?
     
    #177     Aug 21, 2009
  8. Nat Gas now at $2.75/mmbtu I think we will hit low of ~$2.00/mmbtu. Demand is heading back down after power gen summer demand drops. Watch the storage injection numbers jump in the coming weeks...storage will be near full this October. I expect operational flow orders to be instituted by pipelines to leave a little storage headroom for operational reasons.
     
    #178     Aug 23, 2009
  9. SetDraw

    SetDraw

    wow, simply unreal sell-off in nat gas lately. regarding spreads. the V/X is basically a play on storage and the H/J is basically a play on a cold winter or are there other drivers?
     
    #179     Aug 27, 2009
  10. Fundamentally/dynamically correct.
     
    #180     Aug 27, 2009