Nasem Taleb of 'Black Swan' Fame Will Be On The Colbert Report Tonight @ 11:30 PM

Discussion in 'Trading' started by ByLoSellHi, May 8, 2007.

  1. Agreed. I was simply making the case that LV is an auction market.
     
    #61     May 11, 2007
  2. I don't disagree, but retail isn't the tail wagging the dog. Algorithmic trading and bots have brought convergence to Merton's ideal. It's completely phucked-logic, but it is what it is.
     
    #62     May 11, 2007
  3. Hey atticus. Could you elaborate on your last post?
     
    #63     May 11, 2007
  4. All these mean-reverting bots circle-jerking under two sigma. You've got these tiered vol-regimes... no vol under two sigmas and historic vols should we trade off a cliff. Everyone and their bot is in the convergence trade. Mean-reversion is the mantra.

    FWIW, the first weekly bear-reversal bar in the GBPJPY, USDJPY and EURJPY will signal the end.
     
    #64     May 11, 2007
  5. True. I guess I'm trying to think through the inherant marketing limitations of a mere auction market i.e. Vegas versus a two-sided auction like TS.
     
    #65     May 11, 2007
  6. Right, but a bet on the favorite at 3:1 is a bet against the 'dog at 1:3, sans vig. It's simply a matter of dissection.
     
    #66     May 11, 2007
  7. I keep thinking I should do something longer out in the currencies.
     
    #67     May 11, 2007
  8. panzerman

    panzerman

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but the bookie himself is not taking the other side, it's one of the bookies clients who would take the other side. If the bookie thinks he can't find a client to take the other side, then he may not want to take the inital bet in the first place.

    The bookie ideally doesn't care what the outcome of the underlying event is, he just collects the juice if he's laid off all his bets properly.
     
    #68     May 11, 2007
  9. Well, this is the first "magical" bookie with no net exposure. Bookies are degenerate gamblers too.
     
    #69     May 11, 2007
  10. I think this is an excellent question. Has the rise of electronic markets made markets more efficient, yes or no? Someone could write a good book about this. Also, it seems that the rise of computers has certainly contributed to the death of the floor as we know it.
     
    #70     May 11, 2007