Naked Short Selling

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by flytiger, Mar 29, 2007.

  1. Wow. You obviously don't understand anything about anything, do you? If you look at Cox' reaction, you can see a man afraid for his freedom.

    Now, you go do your thing, and I'll do mine. It is obvious any amount of proof only leads you to spin the next topic.
     
    #291     Apr 3, 2008
  2. #292     Apr 3, 2008
  3. sprstpd

    sprstpd

    I am assuming your point is that BSC was hurt by naked short selling. Well then where did BSC deserve to trade? You tell me. I sure wouldn't buy that piece of crap at any price.
     
    #293     Apr 3, 2008
  4. Hey, Sparky. There are other people on this planet besides you. What you would do, and what somebody with a moral code would do are two different things.

    Here is what you can't legally do. You can't take short positions, naked short positions, puts, and then spread rumors, while you continue to motor the stock price down. That is illegal. Now, they've done it to a thousand companies. That, obviously was illegally, but somehow ok. Well , somehow. They lobbied and bribed. That simple. But this time, they froze the financial system, and they targeted Lehman. Too much. It's over.

    So, you saw what you saw today, and now, Jim Cramer, basher of OSTK, TASR, JOS, and a thousand other SHO stocks, finds religion. I can't think of a better sign the Feds are sniffing around - that , and the fact I know they are sniffing around. OK?

    Now, I was short bear that thursday night, and I got lucky. But I did it legally. They knew, and they were loaded for Bear. IT'S ILLEGAL, AND IT ISN'T BEING INFORCED. ASK YOURSELF WHY, AND IF IT'S HEALTHY FOR THE SYSTEM.
     
    #294     Apr 3, 2008
  5. sprstpd

    sprstpd

    It all comes back to your underlying assumption that stock prices are lower than they should be because of naked shorting which is complete conjecture. And for you to highlight BSC as proof of your argument seems idiotic to me when fair value for BSC was arguably $0.
     
    #295     Apr 3, 2008
  6. SEC Inspector General Considering Audit, Investigation on Naked Shorting

    SEC Inspector General Considering Audit, Investigation on Naked Shorting
    Posted April 07, 2008 10:15AM PST
    The inspector general of the Securities and Exchange Commission is considering an audit or investigations relating to the SEC's past handling of complaints involving naked short selling of stock.

    Inspector General David Kotz met March 26 with David Patch, founder of the web site www.investigatethesec.com and a well-known advocate against naked short selling. Kotz said April 7 that he is considering what action is warranted on the issue. Possibilities include an audit or investigations. An audit is a broad look at the SEC's practices in a particular area, while investigations focus on specific allegations of wrongdoing by SEC staff.

    "We're looking at the information Mr. Patch provided us," Kotz said. Naked short selling "is definitely a matter of great concern to a lot of people."

    An official from the Government Accountability Office also attended the meeting with Kotz and his staff, Patch said. GAO officials couldn't immediately be reached to comment.

    Naked short selling is the practice of selling a stock short without borrowing or delivering the shares sold. Patch and others argue that the practice has diluted the values of some stocks, and particularly of small cap companies, by putting thousands of "phantom shares" into circulation. Critics of the SEC say that it hasn't aggressively moved against naked short sellers.

    Read this story and more at DealFlowMedia.com
     
    #296     Apr 8, 2008

  7. your logic defies logic.:confused:
     
    #297     Apr 8, 2008
  8. SEC Inspector General Considering Audit, Investigation on Naked Shorting
    Posted April 07, 2008 10:15AM PST
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    Question regarding this article. I understand it came from deal flow but was this a press release from the SEC or do you know who orginally authored this article?

    From the context of the article it looks like not much is going to happen except some lip service. I checked around on goog and deal flow seemed to be the only source.
     
    #298     Apr 8, 2008
  9. He was called by the New IG. This is only the second in the history of the SEC. The other knucklehead 'retired' the day of the Aguirre hearing. I think it was right after Specter said some of the SEC leaders purjured themselves.

    Anyway, Patch contacted a bunch of us and we all documented the SEC ignoring us. I submitted correspondance w/Barney Frank going back five years where he contacted the SEC (wondered how that worked out), and a bunch of other stuff. I asked The State of La.to participate. I channeled a bunch of stuff to Patch but didn't read it. I lived it already. Anyway, the GAO guy flew out from Chicago esp. to meet . They've got a ton of stuff. There will be some things happening:D count on it. This is a new sheriff.

    I am very surprised, btw, they made an email to the people effected, and gave these quotes. Generally, investigations are secret until conclusions. But I just think the Agency is such a wreck, it doesn't matter. Adn this is just about naked shorting. They have Barney on their ass, then there is the 'fine' business, wehre they don't collect, and the subprime.......... What a mess. LOL. But I am glad, there is so much I can't release, that you guys can see for all my carping we are making a difference. And this is JUST the beginning. We have the ears of the Politicians. Our Problem is guys like Dodd, Shelby, Schumer....... Pockets full of campaign cash. What phonies.

    BTW. I got surprised by this release. It was submitted to the WSJ, but the reporter there has her nose so far up the asses of these enforcement type, she's worthless. Nice, but worthless. That's part of this story - the captured media. Thank God for Web 2.0. Why didn't Mr. Mortgage go on the View? Or Katie Couric, or today??? That effects everybody. Maybe Meredith Viera was making a fruit salad or something.

    This country is fu-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-uc k 't up when it comes to priorities.
     
    #299     Apr 8, 2008
  10. Gary Aguirre on the SEC, again.

    www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2008/apr/09/city-light-1

    Stories City Lights
    Tattered Safety Nets
    By Don Bauder | Published Wednesday, April 9, 2008

    In the depths of the Great Depression, the American government set up social and financial safety nets to prevent another treacherous economic downspiral and financial panic. The strategy seemed to work: in the years since, recessions and bear markets have been milder. There has been no depression, and panics have been fleeting. But now, a few outspoken economists fear that a depression — a prolonged downturn, accompanied by severe financial distress — is a possibility, if only remote. One reason: those safety nets are severely shredded.

    The social safety nets — the entitlement programs set up in the 1930s and their later refinements — are in tatters. The Medicare trust fund will run out in 2019, and the Social Security fund’s reserves will be depleted in 2041. David Walker, former head of the U.S. Government Accountability Office, has been going around the country on Fiscal Wake-Up Tours, warning that the nation is on a financial collision course: there is not enough money to handle coming baby boomer retirements; the Medicare prescription drug benefit plan is a disaster; tax cuts have been irresponsible; the Iraq War is draining available funds; government pensions at all levels are far too generous; and Congress has no budget controls. Walker recently joined a private group trying to educate citizens on the similarities between America today and the Roman Empire in its final years.

    The financial safety nets are in tatters too. They were set up to prevent market manipulation and thwart debt-based pyramids. The 1920s was a decade of wild speculation enriching a favored few but eventually wiping out almost all investors. A handful of crooks would create pools to drive a stock up, then bail out when it hit a predetermined peak. They would work similar magic in driving a stock down.

    The stock pyramids, facilitated by piles of debt, were the most dangerous. The Van Sweringen brothers built a pyramid of railroad stocks; Samuel Insull had an infamous utilities pyramid. As the stocks crashed and the basic businesses foundered, the debts could not be paid. The pyramids collapsed, exacerbating the fall of the overall market. Viewing one jerry-built debt pyramid, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt called it “a 96-inch dog wagged by a 4-inch tail.”

    In this environment, the United States passed rigid securities laws and set up the Securities and Exchange Commission. Its mission was to protect small investors from the depredations of corporate titans and Wall Street. Now the mission (unstated, of course) is exactly the reverse: to protect the titans and Wall Street. One way it’s done is through what San Diego attorney Gary Aguirre, a former commission investigator, calls the “rotating door.” Lawyers work for the agency for several years and then go with big law firms for $2 million or $3 million a year. When they are at the agency, they do dubious favors for the powerful firms representing stock manipulators. For example, John Moores dumped $487 million of stock in Peregrine Systems during the period in which the books were cooked. Evidence shows Moores knew about the phony accounting. Moores hired his personal lawyer, Charles La Bella, to oversee a whitewash by the law firm of Latham & Watkins. To no one’s surprise, it exonerated Moores and put the blame on his underlings. The study was ridiculous, pointed out victims. The SEC official in charge of the Peregrine case blessed the Latham & Watkins study — then went to work for Latham & Watkins.

    Three years ago, the securities commission notified Bear Stearns that it intended to bring an enforcement action against the firm for overvaluing $63 million of subprime mortgage–related derivatives. Two years later, the investigation was quietly closed. Gary Aguirre suspects that backroom pressure from law firms killed the matter. If the case had proceeded, the subprime crisis might have been averted, he suggests.

    “Fixing the SEC so it can protect investors will not be easy,” says Gary Aguirre, who has returned to San Diego after several years in Washington, D.C. “Powerful interests want the SEC to be just the way it is or even weaker.” Opacity, thy name is Wall Street. “Over the last decade there has developed a second financial market — unregulated, off the balance sheets. It has grown geometrically.” This second financial market has been a comfy home for subprime mortgage instruments, derivatives such as credit default swaps, hedge fund monkey business, offshore money pools, and other collusive contrivances. “The nation has two capital markets: one is semitransparent and semiregulated, the other is opaque and unregulated.” And the Securities and Exchange Commission looks the other way — deliberately.

    “The investment banks sold the regulators on the theory of counterparty discipline,” says Gary Aguirre. Translated, that means “Trust us.” Trust these gamblers to be prudent when doing business — say, buying a derivatives contract — from a third party. But the collapse of Bear Stearns, and the fact that almost no firm on Wall Street detected the subprime mortgage fraud, should explode any theory of counterparty discipline. The idea was never more than “a myth sold to regulators so investment banks can operate in the shadows without regulation.”

    In the Bear Stearns crisis, the Federal Reserve began loaning money to the big securities firms. In the years since the Great Depression, it had only loaned to commercial banks. So it is generally accepted that these brokerage firms will have to be regulated. Last week, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson introduced a “regulation lite” package. Don’t expect meaningful regulation of Wall Street. For example, the Treasury only vaguely refers to possible regulatory supervision of complex derivatives, which are the villains. That would be like 1930s regulators winking at Insull and the Van Sweringen brothers, surreptitiously encouraging them to keep building their debt pyramids.

    Commercial banks are supposed to be regulated. But the essence of white-collar fraud is contrived complexity. Derivatives, sated with mathematical formulae and Greek symbols, are perfect tools for that. In keeping these inscrutable derivatives off their balance sheets, the commercial banks have evaded reserve requirements, creating a shadow banking system with starkly inadequate reserves. The securities firms, too, have a shadow system; as long as they have their major weapon, complex derivatives, they can evade regulation.

    “This is very much like what happened before the stock market crash of 1929,” says City Attorney Mike Aguirre, brother of Gary Aguirre. “In the 1920s, there was an escalation of speculation. But it could be measured then; it was tied to a central reference point.” Today, estimates of the notional value of derivatives run from $500 trillion to $700 trillion — beyond anyone’s comprehension. Even adjusted for the inflation that has occurred since the 1930s, “today’s numbers dwarf the numbers then. There has been a corporate takeover of the full faith and credit of the U.S.”

    In short, Roosevelt’s dog would be a hundred yards long and its tail would be a fraction of a millimeter. “The situation is more dangerous than it was in 1929,” says Mike Aguirre, a securities lawyer before he became city attorney. “The numbers are larger; the nation is in worse shape because of the war in Iraq; we don’t have the manufacturing, transportation, and infrastructure [dominance] we had then.”

    Ben Bernanke came in as head of the Federal Reserve promising more transparency. But the Fed-directed takeover of Bear Stearns by JPMorgan was “done completely behind closed doors,” says Mike Aguirre. Why did the Fed secretly arrange the emergency nuptials? Because if Bear Stearns had gone bankrupt, the extent of its interrelationships with other Wall Street houses, hedge funds, pension funds, and commercial banks would have become public knowledge. The people would have known that the system was on the brink of collapse and exactly which banks and brokerages were most at risk. Mike Aguirre says that in future such cases, a failing institution should be forced to go bankrupt. “There should be full disclosure of the liabilities.” The complexity-obsessed markets must be reformed and simplified: “There should be no trading under the counter. Trading should be in organized markets. This is a good time to close all the loopholes.”

    That’s what reformers said in the 1930s. Then the commercial banks, securities firms, hedge funds, and offshore buccaneers created the loopholes anew. Members of Congress, with Wall Street’s money in their sticky fingers, let it happen. Now we’re back on the brink again with tattered nets below us.
     
    #300     Apr 10, 2008