Nader: How Many Gazans Have Already Died? Perhaps 200,000.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ipatent, Mar 10, 2024.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So tell us -- how many of the 30,000 claimed dead by the Gaza Health Ministry are Hamas militants and how many of Palestinian civilians? Tell us what the breakdown is.

    Keep in mind that at least 1/3 of Hamas militants are under the age of 18.
     
    #11     Mar 11, 2024
  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    back to denying reality are we? Joe even said Israel was being indiscriminate, it's time for you to get on board. This waffling is ridiculous.
     
    #12     Mar 11, 2024
  3. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    this has been asked and answered already:
     
    #13     Mar 11, 2024
  4. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Are you some accountant?? Do you need to feed these numbers into an excel sheet to generate empathy?

    I reject your deflection, your made up questions are absolutely irrelevant to the topic in hand which is Israel's heavy handed tactics which is for everyone to see. And this is not something new, this has been going on for decades irrespective of Hamas's terrorist activities.
     
    #14     Mar 11, 2024
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Once again let's walk through the reality. The Hamas Health Ministry does not provide a breakdown of militant versus civilians deaths in Gaza. This failure to provide a realistic breakdown of figures is deliberate and merely meant to promote the pro-Hamas agenda.

    Hamas leaders have admitted to 6000 militant deaths in this war. Israel states the figure is at 12,000 militant deaths. Let's split the number down the middle and say it is 9,000 militant deaths. This means that approximately 1/3 of the 30,000 deaths in Gaza are militants. The percentage may even be as high as 50%.

    Militant deaths are not civilian deaths. Militants are shooting weapons at Israelis.

    All of this is directly pertinent to a thread focusing on "How many Gazans have already died".
     
    #15     Mar 11, 2024
  6. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    So Biden is lying? Every other country watching Israel is lying?

    Biden: Netanyahu ‘hurting Israel’ by not preventing more civilian deaths in Gaza

    https://apnews.com/article/biden-ne...ns-ceasefire-2d4e5657db45ccbe2bb793f06f74c913

    This is the reality, you don't want to admit it for whatever reasons.
     
    #16     Mar 11, 2024
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Yes, I agree that Israel should do more to prevent civilian deaths in Gaza. Additionally, Israel and the international community need to do more in getting aid into Gaza for Palestinian civilians. I have stated both these points multiple times in the past.

    However the urban warfare environment where Hamas uses civilians as human shields in Gaza leads to a very difficult situation for the IDF.

    Everyone should also be reminded that it is Hamas not Israel which is holding up a ceasefire agreement which will allow more aid to be delivered into Gaza.

    Trying to call the deaths of Palestinian civilians and militants in Gaza 'mass murder" or "genocide" is clearly outside the bounds of reality.
     
    #17     Mar 11, 2024
  8. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    You don't have to qualify criticism of Israel's shit tactics by mentioning Hamas every time, nobody here is defending Hamas - the topic is how shit Israel has been to Palestinians for decades and it's becoming more obvious now to many.
     
    #18     Mar 11, 2024
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  9. Mercor

    Mercor

    The headline is wrong
    Biden: Netanyahu ‘hurting Israel’ by not preventing more civilian deaths in Gaza

    Should be
    Biden: Netanyahu ‘hurting Biden in Michigan ’ by not preventing more civilian deaths in Gaza
     
    #19     Mar 11, 2024
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    you've got Lloyd Austin himself saying 25k dead women and children in a congressional hearing. You've got Israel intelligence admitting to using the Gaza health ministry for their numbers (as they publicly denounce) since they have nothing else to go by....you're right 30k is an outdated number. I'm not the biggest fan of euromed but it's not like Israel allows international observers in:

    [​IMG]
     
    #20     Mar 11, 2024