My Options Play

Discussion in 'Options' started by Multioption, Oct 3, 2005.

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  1. That is true. Having more than one ET alias is common.
     
    #711     Nov 10, 2005
  2. Does this guy have a bone to pick with you? He seems to be trying really hard to flame you here....

    - The New Guy
     
    #712     Nov 10, 2005
  3. how do you know "this is a backspread that'll make some money "?

    What if the stock trades back above 65 ?

    That said I think stock will see 62.50
     
    #713     Nov 10, 2005
  4. Options allow me the flexibility of adjustment; I guess you are half-blind!

    You are not the only critic on this forum, however, other critics are not obloquy like you!
     
    #714     Nov 10, 2005
  5. how do you know he "bought" them?

    most likely he CLOSED an open short positions on said options - by buying to 'close'!

    :eek:

    he was the smart money - he sold calls- those of us (like me on VLO) who went long oil stocks into Nov expiry so far are the suckers :D Of course on my options thread I did Dec premium and sold a lower strike Dec (ratioed long)

    - in hindsight the better play was to go long calls for Dec -- and bear spread them with front month calls -and make said spreads ten wide. :eek:

    I have now --closed--- my short VLO Dec 110c for +1.90 profit per-- and will re-sell them after (IF ) VLO trades significantly higher this month.-- OR-- maybe I can capture some premium for Nov 105s and will sell those IF VLO trades higher. Right now it's looking like a proverbial "dog with fleas" unless you were astute enough to short it and/or buy puts!.

    Want to say one more thing- it would not surpprise me at all to see VLO at >100 tomorrow or Monday ! Those who do not have long positions in VLO or APA - now would not be a bad time to consider one- for sure! Often as expiry nears these stocks will swing in a wide ranges depending on how much open interest is still unresolved.

    As for me I will not average in or add to my long calls typically so for now I will just hold my position in VLO.

    I will possibly institutre a new position in APA, however.
     
    #715     Nov 10, 2005
  6. I wonder!
     
    #716     Nov 10, 2005
  7. You are one sad soul!

    Wandering Newbie
     
    #717     Nov 10, 2005
  8. Whether he was opening a long position or closing a short position he still "bought" them. Just as someone sold them. However, it looked like someone hit a MM's ask. I agree, it does seem likely that someone was closing a position, however.

    Thanks,

    - The New Guy

    EDIT: congrats, nice trade!
     
    #718     Nov 10, 2005
  9. I see. Perhaps.

    You sold the APA 60 CALLS, not bought. When you put on positions what type of trading environment do you like? For me, for example, if i want to get short something i make sure to have a decent entry so that my stop gets wider as the position moves in my favor. A bad entry can ruin a position for me. I don't mean to be critical in a personal sense but i am an equities trader trying to learn the intracacies of options trading. Thanks for your words and patience. So anyway, i like price extremes followed by price reversals with heavy volume and broad venue participation. I watch prices and volume and time; then i match this against some technical studies such as regression lines and price channels. Going on my eighth year of equity trading i have developed price and volume patterns that serve as a back drop to all of my trades. My hardest lesson was sticking to strict guidelines of position sizing and switching sides on an instrument in seconds. Now, i make decisions fast and have grown my market intuition commensurate to the education and tools i utilize. More than i wanted to share but what the.... Good Luck, i'm watching...
     
    #719     Nov 10, 2005
  10. Hope all longs got out of APA. The tape at the close yesterday revealed the drop today 10th of Nov
     
    #720     Nov 10, 2005
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