My option trades

Discussion in 'Options' started by ryanpatrick, Nov 21, 2011.

  1. That caught my eyes and is interesting....but my option account can't do that type of naked call trading just yet....My equity account does not have option trading so can't go there too.....let me know how it goes.
     
    #581     Feb 28, 2012
  2. That's true, and expect at least some type of volatility crush back to about 70 from above 100. So price in that too before making a trade. But do try that paper trade and let me know how it turns out.....I'd always love to see other trades be it paper trade on the trade I'm in to get a different perspective. If you decide to jump into it with real cash, keep it cool lol....I got 2 47.5/55 at 2.50 so $512.95 risk only for now.
     
    #582     Feb 28, 2012
  3. Looks like there was $600 Margin requirement per "set" and I was able to get a set for $.30, I'll let you know how it goes...
     
    #583     Feb 28, 2012
  4. yUP! wILL SEE TOMORROW

    Got two paper trades on SODA in CALLS

    Buy 50 @ 2.90
    sell 52.50 @ 2,00
    For -$90

    Buy 47.50 @ $4.40
    Sell 55 @ 3.00
    For - $140

    See how it goes tomorrow.
     
    #584     Feb 28, 2012
  5. At $50 the fly earns $2 at the open. 2.50 by end of the day.
     
    #585     Feb 28, 2012
  6. It would appear that what I suggested is almost a fly, just like atticus has been suggesting except that mine doesn't have the top end cap (which could be suicide). I suppose instead of the 40/50/60 like atticus suggests mine would be basically the same thing at 50/55/60, where the 50/55/60's max profit is around 55 and the 40/50/60's max profit is around 50.

    I'm very interested in the fly now, I didn't know how it worked until reading up on it just now.
     
    #586     Feb 28, 2012
  7. Yeah, the fly basically states that you think SODA hangs at $49-$51 area. I felt it would hang around there too this morning when I expected SODA to close out around $45-$46, but closing out at $47.50, this is now a different dog. A gap lower pushes it back to about $41-$43, but the gap up has legs to push through $50, possibly test $55. Almost felt like I saw some short covering heading into the close today with strong volume in 2 steps around 2:30PM and 3:30PM EST. I could understand the end of day volume at 35K per minute, but that 2:30PM spike with volume at 30K per minute for 2-3 minutes suggest big institutional buyer in or short covering going out. SODA reports tomorrow morning so we'll see how it plays out tomorrow.
     
    #587     Feb 28, 2012
  8. You suggested a short backspread at $0.50 which has unbounded upside risk. Regardless he can't trade a short backspread in a cash account. I really don't understand knocking a fly's wing hedge as suicide when you're suggesting unlimited risk in a short backspread. That's a bit nutty.

    Pick a fly that is neutral to the strike you like.
     
    #588     Feb 28, 2012
  9. Huuuuh! Lemme learn debit spreads first. :confused:
    Fly indeed.
     
    #589     Feb 28, 2012
  10. SODA has the tenacity to do extremely disturbing things to your account if you're net short puts or calls - especially at expiration.

    Anybody with a position with unlimited upside or downside risk might get hurt tomorrow.

    I personally have a butterfly but looks like I wont do that much better if it really shoots tomorrow- especially on the upside.

    If it tanks, I'll take a small hit.

    P.S.

    I read backspreads. Big no no if you're new (like I am- unlimited loss in one direction is not a good thing for anyone actually)... Not if the stock moves like a mother! Youll lose more as you panic and send market orders and get terrible fills with wide bid/ask spreads...
     
    #590     Feb 28, 2012