My option trades

Discussion in 'Options' started by ryanpatrick, Nov 21, 2011.

  1. AAPL is dominating the news right now. The rest of the headlines look pretty bleak. IMO it's a pure gamble, anything could happen esp with the FOMC meeting today. I am so tempted to buy a boatload of INTC weekly 27 puts at $.04, but I shouldn't.

    APPL 535/600 calendars are sitting at a combined $100 loss right now.
     
    #1721     Apr 25, 2012
  2. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    I was wrong on this. But I still maintain then that the weeklies were too cheap.
     
    #1722     Apr 25, 2012
  3. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    But they would have made money in this case as the implied move was much lower.
     
    #1723     Apr 25, 2012
  4. I doubt "new traders" get caught up in vol collapse. If anything the high premiums would scare them away at first, then after earnings they would figure it out. At most maybe they get burned once.
     
    #1724     Apr 25, 2012
  5. The vol-crush isn't exploitable as realized vol is often 200% after the number. Tim Cook has been the driver of forecasting the following quarter a buck or two under their internal projections. They always beat by a mile as a result and the shares move 5-10%.

    IBM's Palmisano was notorious for being conservative with forecasts and still being forced to buy-back shares to meet EPS. Of course they blew through their cash at a record rate. Dude it a complete shitbag.
     
    #1725     Apr 25, 2012
  6. people make the same mistakes over and over, I am not thinking new traders know how to use a basic option calc to figure out how vol pricing effects the outcome............what do I know?
     
    #1726     Apr 25, 2012
  7. Doobs789

    Doobs789

    They'll have to figure out the hard way...I'm ok with eating their lunch though.
     
    #1727     Apr 25, 2012
  8. a couple of things elude me, why are guys trading iron condors when they have no idea what they are doing? People don't know the most basic synthetics but they want to take down the CBOE crowd for size, LOL. :)
     
    #1728     Apr 25, 2012
  9. I just entered a new mechanical trade based on an older system that has a hit rate of about 65%:
    SPY May 139 puts
    Buy 1: 1.95 (filled)
    Sell Limit: 2.45 (+25%) or if tanks before rising
    Buy 2: 1.60 and then sell all at new
    Sell Limit: 2.25
    Stop: 1.46

    Reward to Risk:
    .65 + .30 = +.95
    -.49 + -.14 = -.63
     
    #1729     Apr 25, 2012
  10. Also, If you open the attached chart of the SPX, Just like it was supporting on the way up since the beginning of the year, I am hoping the declining 20 day moving average (blue line) in the center of the declining channel (red lines) acts as failure resistance.
     
    #1730     Apr 25, 2012