My option trades

Discussion in 'Options' started by ryanpatrick, Nov 21, 2011.


  1. Staring Falconview as Peter Griffin
    and Various ET members as the Commanding Officer


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    #1311     Apr 4, 2012
  2. New system trade:
    Bought April 140 calls at 1.25 (filled)
    Sell Limit: 1.75 (+40%)
    Stop: 1.00

    One Buy Trade Only, which means I am all in with a full position.

    Reward to Risk: 2/1
    +.50 / -.25
     
    #1312     Apr 5, 2012
  3. Not sure how you figure that reward to risk ratio Jeff?

    I´m still sitting on my 3 PUTs, but it is very close to being closed for a loss.

    In the meantime, I entered a calendar.

    1 Calendar QQQ 67 April 2/ April 1 Call @.41 cents.

    Wanted to see if I have it entered right? Can´t really figure it out, looking at it. But checking the accounts it seems to be the way I want it? Selling the April 1 and buying the April 2 weeklies.

    Guess I will find out when I close it?
     
    #1313     Apr 5, 2012
  4. are you out of calls? SPY may still re-test 141
     
    #1314     Apr 5, 2012
  5. That trade your referring to with the SPY April 141 calls got stopped out at 1.11,
    which was -40% under Buy No. 1 (bought at 1.85).

    You have draw a line in the sand somewhere and my maximum
    beat-down I will take is a -40% drop below Buy No. 1.


    However I am in another call trade today:
    SPY April 140 calls bought at 1.25,
    Sell Limit: 1.75 (+40%)
    Stop: 1.00 (-20%)

    This trade does not have a Buy No. 2.

    Note: this is per falcon's last question to me:
    Reward to Risk: 2 to 1
    either make +.50 profit or lose -.25
    50 divide 25 = 2 2.0 to 1.0
     
    #1315     Apr 5, 2012
  6. Jeff

    I like the idea of betting a two to one the way you do it. Not sure how that would work in the QQQ?

    I took my loss in the PUTS. I did have a bit of a profit once, but it was not enough to take and I let it ride for a while. So my loss turned out to be -$108 with commissions.

    I have an early CALL signal, but nothing I am going to take at this time. The market is in a sideways messing about range. In the QQQ I don´t get enough moves to make it pay. Was just recalculating my commission and costs. Turns out to be 8.20 cents per contract. I wonder how they figure that out? I used to calculate $6 round turn, but it has been getting more expensive and just recalculated and this last 3 contracts I took a loss on was eight and a quarter cents per contract round turn in TOS.

    Now we wait and see what happens with my first CALENDAR in cash.
     
    #1316     Apr 5, 2012
  7. I kinda wondered if the NY Exchange took a holiday on a religion for tomorrow. Just checked. Tomorrow is a holiday and NY will be closed.
    I´m surprised? Wonder how many religions are recognized for holidays?
     
    #1317     Apr 5, 2012

  8. Falcon,

    1: It probably wasn't a good idea of having a 2/1 reward to risk today, this being the last trading day of the week before a 3 day holiday weekend (which I overlooked in my planning the trade).
    Had I used my Standard +30% profit goal on the SPY April 140 calls bought at 1.25, they would have already sold at 1.63, +30%
    (the high has been 1.66).
    These calls have now dropped in the 1.40's and if they see 1.60
    or greater again today, "I'm outta there."

    2: I really don't know if this would work on the QQQ's.
    If you can send me a minimum of 6 months worth of QQQ data
    with the Open=??? High=??? Low=??? Close=???
    on both a call and a put you have been trading, tracking, or testing for the last 6 months (need that data every trade day for the last 6 months), I can run it through my trading program and let you know if it would work.
    I could also let you know what parameters are best for trading the QQQ, best average entry price, best average sell limit, best average stop, best average hold time.

    3: Lastly, your commissions are ridiculous!
    Two words: "Interactive Brokers," .70 commission per contract if you buy 2 or more. $1.00 if your buying only 1 contract.
    I have used them for over a decade and wouldn't consider anyone else.


    Jeff
     
    #1318     Apr 5, 2012
  9. Well the QQQ index is online. So you can get the index numbers from a chart.

    As to money changing prices, I wouldn´t have that.

    The amount of premium change depends on the VIX number. With a bull trend that number is usually low.

    There hasnt been enough volatility to get the moves.

    I hope my CALENDAR works out today. Could start trading that instead, as Don Bright and Atticus talk about. Selling being best in low doldrum situations.

    This being the last day, I´m not at all sure how to close this CALENDAR. Do I have to actually close the trade as a CALENDAR, or does the expiry one, this week, get cash settled? And I remain with the next bought one left over? Questions for which I have no answer yet.

    I believe right now my CALENDAR would close and cover commissions, if I have entered it right? Probably close it to get some answers.
     
    #1319     Apr 5, 2012
  10. Falcon,

    You are saying the VIX low and market in doldrum situation:
    Here is the QQQ April 67 calls (exp: 4/20/2012) so far today:
    Open = 0.97 High= 1.30 (+34%)
    That's > +30% profit with the QQQ up only .65%!
    That's a decent gain.
     
    #1320     Apr 5, 2012