My option trades

Discussion in 'Options' started by ryanpatrick, Nov 21, 2011.

  1. yeah this is not for everyone, its a moving target. I am just saying that if you are wrong on your position you can adjust your risk/hedge by trading the stock. What got me thinking about this was that while rimm opened down quite alot it basically traded back to even from 12.37.
     
    #1241     Mar 30, 2012
  2. I was long a lot of deltas into the Osama hit and shorted 72.00 in ES. I remember it vividly as I was less than a point off the high for the week. In these earnings situations it's critical (IMO) to have the ability to gamma-trade AH.
     
    #1242     Mar 30, 2012
  3. If you could please expand on this. I have limited understanding of this myself. I think it could be helpful to some of the more intermediate option traders. The point I was trying make is that once the option exchange closes most retail traders assume they are done till the open. I never really thought about offsetting after hours with stock.
     
    #1243     Mar 30, 2012
  4. I am not a straddle trader, but imagine that you're long the XYZ 100 straddle from 6.00 and the shares close the day session at 102, and open the PM session at 107. Any price >$106 can be hedged 100-delta to lock in a break-even potential. Of course you would still have some extrinsic premium available in the straddle.

    So you're in an earnings situation and you're neutral delta, long gamma. Stock opens up big. You would want to discount your greeks by a drop in vol and quickly calc your deltas at the new vol-line.

    XYZ pops to 107 assuming a 500bp drop in vol. You deltas would increase quite a bit on your AH hedge due to the vol-drop. A 100-share hedge would lock-in $1 minimum gain on the position, less any extrinsic value in the straddle. Most would not hedge 100-delta, but would allow for more upside.
     
    #1244     Mar 30, 2012
  5. fair enough thanks.....:)
     
    #1245     Mar 30, 2012

  6. He ate some bad apples (AAPL). I recommended applesauce (QQQ) to get the apple taste without the risk of the apples. But he went for the apples instead.


    :)
     
    #1246     Mar 30, 2012
  7. #1247     Mar 30, 2012
  8. That was just a watch list.

    You tool.
     
    #1248     Mar 30, 2012
  9. The only link in your post is to ryanpatrick's AAPL trade. Could you give more info on what you are talking about? Or you could have one of your subordinates answer for you.

    :)
     
    #1249     Mar 30, 2012
  10. Yeah, you don't have a clue what he is talking about because it never happened.

    You tool.
     
    #1250     Mar 30, 2012