My nq price action method

Discussion in 'Journals' started by slugar, Sep 1, 2013.

  1. Redneck

    Redneck

    Slugar

    Just opened up today’s chart attachment…, haven’t even looked at your trade plans yet…,

    And no matter what I say while reviewing your trade plans (good / bad / or indifferent)....

    I want you to hear this first;

    The context on today’s chart is beautiful

    The context you drew – covering the price it covers – reflects what price is saying.., in those areas - to a T

    Those are lines…, you…, and for that matter I…, can trust / can absolutely trade

    That zone – what a wonderful surprise…, it reflects what price said in that area – and it is absolutely tradable

    Job Well Done deciphering what price was saying… then drawing accurate context – both diagonally and horizontally – which reflects that

    :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:


    Be back in a bit with your trades

    RN
     
    #551     May 5, 2014
  2. Redneck

    Redneck

    Todays trades.


    Trade 1.
    Long on a double bottom support 3550.75
    stop 3548
    target 3561 last swing high.

    Comment

    Entry – good

    Stop – appears 3548 is the DB.., so go just a little lower than the signal – but not too much

    Target – Can’t see the last swing high (no comment)

    Trade 2.
    Higher low long at 3559.50
    stop 3557.25
    up move trend line target break of trend line.

    Comment
    Entry – good

    Stop –just a little too tight – breach “appears” to be at 3557 even - make stop 3556.50 / .75

    Target – cool


    Trade 3.
    long on another higher low at 3571
    stop umtl and
    target premarket swing high of 3584.

    Comment

    Entry – Good

    Stop – Breach of UMTL (I assume??) – Good

    Target – Good


    Trade 4.
    last trade is a long at bottom of range 3582.75
    stop 3580.50 umtl and
    target top of range 3592.

    Comment

    Entry – is in the middle of your range – danger - see note below ... btw I think the circle is off (at an area to short??)

    Stop – should be the breach of the bottom of the range (3579 and change)

    Target – I don’t see that range – I see a range from 3580 to 3584 – wtf - target 3584


    Note;

    When trading a range...,the other side of the range should be the target... and a breach of the range side your entering near - the stop

    eg.

    Enter @ bottom of range, long
    Target - top of range (or near it)
    Stop - breach of range bottom

    Enter @ top of range, short
    Target - bottom of range (or near it)
    Stop - breach of top of range

    IMPORTANT;

    Never enter..., a range trade.., when price is near / in the middle - of the range - because you will get screwed no matter which way you enter - I know this

    Have the patience to wait till price reaches one side of the range.., or the other - makes for a proper.., low risk - set up/ signal / edge

    RN
     
    #552     May 5, 2014
  3. Huyang

    Huyang

    RN:Learned from you again: trade what i see but not what i think. At red arrow I was thinking of a possible range from 80 to 92 but there should not be for no similar top around 92 yet. At black arrow, could we say a possible range from 80 to 92 ? Thank you.
     
    #553     May 5, 2014
  4. slugar

    slugar

    Thanks for the kind words RN looking to be more disciplined in my lines and my discription of my trades, combine this with confidence to follow my plan to a t and we will be on to something here
     
    #554     May 6, 2014
  5. Redneck

    Redneck


    Ranges are just that – areas where price ranges (consolidates)


    3584 to 3580 – price is ranging on this chart (TF) (and which Sluggar correctly identified)


    Likely 3580 to 3592 is also a range – or at least “potentially” the beginning of a range – on a larger TF

    ===========================

    Thing is…. this is Slugar’s TTF – so he needs to stick with it / trade on it



    What you’re picking up on… is how smaller TFs – build bigger TFs (albeit bars or charts)…

    And you’re seeing how one can use a smaller TF to see/ pick up on – the inner workings of larger TFs

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    On this chart - what you noted (3580 to 3592) 3580 - 3584 is a range / 3584 to 3592 is trade-able moves

    On Slugar's TTF


    On a bigger TF chart - yup - 3580 to 3592 - is likely is a range forming

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    Very easy to confuse MTFs (a lower TF blending into / creating a higher TF) – if one doesn’t keep their head clear

    And why it is important to pick a TTF and stick to it come hell or highwater... but... and while - also knowing the bigger picture forming

    RN
     
    #555     May 6, 2014
  6. Redneck

    Redneck

    Both are vitally important

    (1) Doing so accurately - accurately describes price's actions (and we are PA traders - no)

    (2) Doing so accurately - accurately describes our actions - in relation to - price's actions

    Details & accuracy matter in this business

    RN
     
    #556     May 6, 2014
  7. slugar

    slugar

    Trades for Tuesday. short on a double top at 3589.50 stop 3592 target 3580 bottom yesterdays range.2.short on a lower high 87.25 stop 91 and target last swing low 3579.3.long on a higher low at 83 stop 80 target last swing high 91.4. short at resistance 3590 stop 93.25 target range at 80. 5.short on lower high 3479 stop 3481.75 target dmtl break. 6. long at support 3553.75 stop 3551.75 blow signal bar target 60 last swing high. 7. short on a lower high 3558 target last swing 51 stop 61 or breach of dmtl
     
    #557     May 6, 2014
  8. Redneck

    Redneck

    Honestly - half way through reviewing your trade plans - I was getting pissed - read on to find out why please



    General comments

    Appears the range from 3580 – 3592 (yesterday's range) was in play this morning - go figure :)

    TLs – look good (I did add another (in red) as something to be aware of


    Ranges;

    One from 3580 – 2592 – you noted..., Also never be hesitant to extend a range out (horizontally across the chart) – it came back into play mid to late morning

    One from 3564 - ~3552 – miss it??

    The one noted ~3552 – 3551 – Personally I would not call that a range – rather a PB (a piss poor one at that) – that’s exhibiting weakness (see what I highlighted)


    Trades for Tuesday.

    Trade 1
    short on a double top at 3589.50
    stop 3592
    target 3580 bottom yesterdays range.

    Comment

    Entry; Good

    Stop; Make it a breach – not just arriving at the top

    Target; good

    However price never hit the target – instead it moved down…, then started back up – so what did you do…, how did you manage this one

    Having target is fine…, as long as price plays along – when it doesn’t (and many times it won’t)…, we still need (a way) to manage each trade

    Same as having a plan “A” and a plan “B”


    Trade 1 ½

    What the hell happened to the long near the bottom of the range?????? - You have it marked but no trade plan




    Trade 2.
    short on a lower high 87.25
    stop 91 and
    target last swing low 3579.

    Comment

    This trade is not marked????

    Entry; 3587.25 (I assume) – okay (damn I hate guessing trade plans)

    Stop; This stop is incorrect – it should be breach of DMTL… or breach of the top of the range (if you’re feeling generous with your capital)

    Target;



    Trade 3.
    long on a higher low at 83
    stop 80
    target last swing high 91.

    Comment

    Near as I can tell – this trade is not marked

    Entry; 3583 ??? (why the partial price)

    Stop; 3580??? (again why the partial price)

    Target;

    Again – you appear to be ignoring that big fat range.., price is in (for the entry / stop/ and target)


    Trade 4.
    short at resistance 3590
    stop 93.25
    target range at 80.

    Comment

    This trade ain’t marked – no comment because I ain’t guessing

    Entry;

    Stop;

    Target;


    Trade 5.
    short on lower high 3479
    stop 3481.75
    target dmtl break.

    Comment
    Entry; Good

    Stop; Good

    Target; Good


    Trade 6.
    long at support 3553.75
    stop 3551.75 blow signal bar
    target 60 last swing high.

    Comment
    Entry; Good

    Stop; Good

    Target; Good

    Trade 7.
    short on a lower high 3558
    stop 61 or breach of dmtl
    target last swing 51

    Comment
    Entry; Good

    Stop; Good

    Target; Good

    I'm not insinuating you are - but please don't get lackadaisical on me - this stuff matters greatly


    RN
     
    #558     May 6, 2014
  9. Redneck

    Redneck



    If you haven’t figured it out yet – building a trader…. and/ or building an approach/ methodology

    Is one big ass - extensive…, and ceaseless exercise in layering

    No matter the trader – or the approach / methodology

    First we remove the useless.., even detrimental layers

    Then we begin adding layer – upon layer - to build a trader…, and/or to build our approach / methodology

    There are countless layers we could add – some enhance the existing layers – while adding others would only serve to detract... or even negate - the layers we already have


    Individual layers – are not complicated – and most..., easily understood

    Yet when melded together – can become complicated… can be hell to understand… let alone – assimilated in such a manner..., that we can successfully and effortlessly utilize them together to trade


    Context – proper context – context that accurately reflects price – is price’s voice speaking to us

    Context – is the very foundation upon which we…, as PA traders…, build our entire methodology / approach

    Build our trades

    Manage our trades

    Get paid

    Or lose money


    It is the very foundation upon which we build the trust – in price…, and in our trading

    It is the very foundation upon which we build our resolute to act unwavering-ly and repeatedly …, and/ or the patience to stand pat as long as is necessary

    We build each trade’s plan on the context foundation we create

    Our plan must be thorough – it must be what we do – no matter how much hell (volatility) is going on in front of us


    And I could go on…, and on..., and on... but to suffice to say

    Proper context..., and a complete plan for each trade - is so damn important - it ain't even the least little bit funny

    RN
     
    #559     May 6, 2014
  10. slugar

    slugar

    The zone I marked wasn't for a range it was the support area I marked in my prep work on Sunday.
     
    #560     May 6, 2014