My nq price action method

Discussion in 'Journals' started by slugar, Sep 1, 2013.

  1. Huyang

    Huyang

    RN: Reading your comment of lower long entry requesting a lower target which I finally understood your thinking and recalling sometimes my 5+ps winning trade becoming a 1ps profit or even a 5+Ps loser and Handle123's sharing day trading using a profit target, it is all about balancing catching the potential profit, probability of unexpected abrupt PA, and individual traits on decisiveness and thinking speed and acting fast capability. What I learned is the following: No profit taking strategy is perfect; just need to choose one strategy and stick to it.

    As what you have said, having a plan to guide the trading is the key. I totally agree with you about simplicity; just simplified the trading plan because easier to follow in real time and a complicated plan may not improve performance much but with the difficulty of not remembering certain details when trading. Moreover, you talked about the need of trusting ourselves in NoDoJi's journal; a simple trading plan will make us feel easier to trust we will follow the plan in real time and to be in a detached mode.

    I have finished reading Slugar'sjournal, seeing you have been carefully guiding Slugar's moving in the right direction in his rhythm and interest and Slugar's posts have clearly shown much improvement. My only question: I wonder whether you are willing to disclose your plan or vision how you will be helping Slugar's trading from now to May of next year? I understand the process is dynamic; so your sharing doesnot have to give much details.

    The purpose of this quest: knowing your vision will definitely help traders who are self-coaching and at different stages to stay on the right path. I know trading is personal , but I also believe other's journey or vision can be insightful. Probably my question is not suitable, then please feel free to ignore my question.

    Thank you very much!
     
    #531     May 2, 2014
  2. Redneck

    Redneck

    Absolutely agree… and I would add…, never change strategies in mid trade - yet remain adaptable to unfolding PA





    Very well…, and eloquently stated Sir




    There are more ways to trade successfully than I care to count

    Trading success.., ultimately…, comes from within

    I believe these statements with every fiber of my being

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    Having said that – I have no real plan – other than to hang out with Slugar for as long as he is willing to put up with me – be that however long

    My plan;

    I can take what he posts and provide feedback / options/ possibly another way of looking at it / or thinking about it

    When he comes across stuff he’s unsure about.., or wants to explore – we can talk it through.., then he'll make up his mind

    To let him know – all the bullshit / doubts/ frustration / uncertainty/ fears - he goes through – been there to – and it’s okay

    He’s reach out to others and got told – essentially – do it my way – which is bullshit… and I’m not here for that

    I do want him to seek out other traders – and learn from them (every trader I know.., including me.., has piecemealed together their system/ methodology / approach – by taking bits and pieces from several others)


    Slugar knows – beyond any doubt – ultimately – it’ll be on him to succeed – that it must come from within – that ultimately It’ll come down to this

    Enter every time a signal materializes
    Trade works – hold… exit for a profit
    Trade fails – exit for a BE/ small loss
    On to the next one – no matter what
    We never know

    I know this.., because I’ve told him

    This journey is tough – at times lonely – and filled with a lot of crap – that few appreciate - let alone understand

    My vision…, is to be a sounding board… a shoulder… a colleague…. And when necessary – a royal pain in his ass

    I’m doing the same for jas_in_hbca as well

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    The next logical question would be; why would I do this / what’s my angle

    That is my business…, and it holds for these two…, as it did for NOD (though I think she is beyond help at this point – :D – hope she reads this)


    At this point in my life I could care less about saving the world – but I’ll stick by these 3 come hell or high water...

    Soooo.., let’s just say I’m following my gut



    Your question is perfectly legit - NEVER be hesitant to question every thing.., and every one - in this business - ever


    You are Very Welcome Sir

    RN
     
    #532     May 2, 2014
  3. slugar

    slugar

    I'm going to post my chart on Saturday I worked 12 hours today and coached my daughters softball team for 2 more I'm beat and going to bed. Thanks for your support RN
     
    #533     May 2, 2014
  4. slugar

    slugar

    1st trade short on a failure at3601.50 stop 3604 target 3589. 2.long on higher low 3586.25 stop 3582 target swing high 3597. 3.short on a lower high 3593.50 stop 3596.75 target swing low 3578.4 long at 3578.75 stop 3571.25 target break of up move trend line. 5.long on lower high 3578.25 stop 3576 target 3586 swing low from 919. 6. double top short 3590.50 stop breach of double top target swing low 3576. last trade
     
    #534     May 3, 2014
  5. slugar

    slugar

    RN's comment about seeking help from other traders is spot on . Handle 123 and ammo have been exceptional with contributing to my method.:)
     
    #535     May 3, 2014
  6. Redneck

    Redneck


    Enjoy every moment – it passes all too quickly

    Just dropped my youngest off…, first day.., at his first PT job – bittersweet…, Yes Sir..., very bittersweet that is


    Back in a moment

    RN
     
    #536     May 3, 2014
  7. Redneck

    Redneck

    1st trade
    short on a failure at 3601.50
    stop 3604
    target 3589.

    Comments

    There are 3 bars making LHs – (butt up against the DMTL – and also respecting the DMTL (my green circle)

    Make that the Stop Loss – and reduce your risk by 6+ points

    If it had failed – get out… go searching for the next entry


    Aside;

    Think how much work it is to regain a loss… think the toll it takes emotionally – the toll it takes sitting through it

    I am not saying enter / exit / enter / exit – like a spastic monkey – but clearly if price had breached that DMTL – then something has/ or is about to – change sediment wise

    Sitting in a losing trade - to me - is like having an anchor attached to your ass and it dragging you down to the deep 6 (mentally speaking)

    Exiting said losing trade frees you up (mentally / and capital wise) to reengage

    We are traders – it ain’t workin – get out

    Trade is solid – but again – manage risk first




    Trade 2.
    long on higher low 3586.25
    stop 3582
    target swing high 3597.

    Comments

    Enter long…, on a lower high - why?????

    Stop is way…, way too liberal


    There is an UMTL established (green circles)

    There is a range – highlighted in yellow

    There is a false BOD – circled in red

    Btw that wick.., circled in red - also reflects strength (price didn't want to be down there so it shot up fast / buying said we got this)


    A BOU / with a retest – circled in light blue

    Then off to the races price shoots

    Price is saying it wants to go up

    You entered correctly – but for the wrong reason – and…, had the SL set way too liberally

    Target = good

    Nuff said??


    Trade 3.
    short on a lower high 3593.50
    stop 3596.75
    target swing low 3578.

    Comments

    By highlighting the ranges – I suspect you see this trade completely differently now

    Short – yes

    Stop – too tight (should be breach of the range / DT)

    Target – beautiful – though when price started ranging – I would have likely exited (eta - looking at this range again - it is a range PB to the DMTL - likely I would not have exited unless price breached the DMTL - my mistake)


    Trade 4

    long at 3578.75
    stop 3571.25
    target break of up move trend line.

    Comments

    SL is way the hell too liberal – make it the break of the UMTL

    Entry and target - Great


    Trade 5.
    long on lower high 3578.25
    stop 3576
    target 3586 swing low from 919.

    Comments

    Again a long on a lower high – please explain this to me

    Looking to go long on higher lows – yes

    Looking to short on lower highs – yes

    I never look to go long on lower highs


    Stop – ummm to liberal

    Target - perfect


    Trade 6.
    double top short 3590.50
    stop breach of double top
    target swing low 3576. last trade

    Comments

    Entry and stop – perfect

    Target – too optimistic (see the range I identify via red rectangle)… and price had been moving up

    Adjust your expectation (and target) accordingly


    RN
     
    #537     May 3, 2014
  8. Redneck

    Redneck

    Staying on my soap box a bit longer

    Losses are a normal part of trading - and are to be expected / exited easily



    But allowing a loss to increase more than is necessary (holding after a trade has been deemed failed - the signal invalidated..., OR..., setting it way past where a signal fails)

    Creates unnecessary work & stress - which screws up our ability to perform

    Not potentially screws it up... flat out does (I know this from experience)


    Can't count the number of times I've sat there thinking.., damn if i have only exited when the loss was still small

    Then after I finally got out - me trading to make up the loss... (which is the same as trading my PnL) - very.., very bad


    Please learn from my mistakes...

    Manage risk first
    Set the SL where the signal fails (in actuality - just past)
    Always exit once the signal fails..., & the loss still BE.., or small

    Makes trading exponentially less stressful..., I - gaaar -un - damn - tee - it

    RN
     
    #538     May 3, 2014
  9. Huyang

    Huyang

    RN:
    That is very kind of you to do all of this. Lots of insight exits in the above and in the below. Then our mission becomes how to learn from your sharing and how to make it our own (within). Thank you very much for your sharing.

     
    #539     May 3, 2014
  10. Redneck

    Redneck


    Quite astute Huyang

    You captured not only the essence…, but also the salient points

    You are Very Welcome Sir :)

    RN
     
    #540     May 3, 2014