My nq price action method

Discussion in 'Journals' started by slugar, Sep 1, 2013.

  1. RN,

    I'm not sure what u mean by uncertainty? How can uncertainty benefit a trader? Just curious.. Maybe I'm not reading your post right who knows..
     
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    #1011     Dec 25, 2014
  2. jsmacksem

    jsmacksem

    Maybe he meant embrace it instead of fighting it. Learn to be friends with uncertainty since it's always there.

    I think...
     
    #1012     Dec 25, 2014
  3. Redneck

    Redneck


    Hey MA

    Well Sir…, allow me to rattle your trading foundation (beliefs) a bit

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    Every future tick – whether it ends up being higher…, lower.., or the same – as the current tick – is unknowable

    Every future bar – no matter the chart time frame – whether it will end up closing higher…, lower…, or the same – as the previously closed bar – is unknowable

    The outcome of every trade we enter – whether it ends up working…, or breaking down – is unknowable

    Whether one’s “edge” results in the next trade being a profitable trade…, or a losing trade – is unknowable

    Whether the day will end up being an up day…, or down day – is unknowable

    Whether the day will be a trending..., or rangy day - is unknowable

    Whether the day will have momentum.., chop..., or some combination - is unknowable

    Where price will end the day – is unknowable

    That..., prior to the gov outlawing the shorting of financials..., they would - was unknowable

    That shtf in 2007 and panic ensued - was unknowable (but not unexpected)

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    In short;

    Every aspect…, of every future happening…, event…, occurrence…, result…, outcome…, when..., how..., path - price will take to get from A to B – either in the mkt…, and/ or – pertaining to trading

    Is completely unknowable

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    Everything unknowable – is uncertain…, and of course uncontrollable


    So…, given the mkt / trading is completely uncertain

    How the heck does one live…, ultimately thrive – in this environment of never knowing..., of never being in control

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    Most..., simply reject the fact that the mkt / trading is uncertain – often times vehemently…, even to the point of self delusion

    These folks end up in a ceaseless loop – and never able to progress further

    At best they are marginally profitable - if at all


    Then.., there are some that get to the point of appreciating…, but not completely accepting that the mkt / trading is completely uncertain

    This often scares the shit out of them enough..., that it causes them to freeze / hesitate / vapor lock – and of course never progress

    This type of trading is quite stressful - and ultimately does a trader in - as it is unsustainable..., burns through emotional capital quickly


    And of course others get to varying degrees between completely rejecting / and appreciating..., but not accepting


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    For the ones who are able to completely accept the uncertainty of the mkt / trading


    Total and complete trading freedom

    Neither winners…, nor losers matter

    No hesitation entering the next signal

    No stress…, no fighting the mkt / any given trade…, no delusional-ness..., no burning of emotional capital


    Setups / signals / edges - are a dime a dozen (not to mention any names - but someone had an epiphany on this very sentence recently :) )


    Focus is only on that which can be known / controlled – our self / our actions

    We simply follow our routine(s)…, do our job

    Trader mindset nirvana

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    Indisputable fact - the mkt..., and trading..., are completely uncertain

    Reject this to what ever degree you like - at your own peril

    RN
     
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    #1013     Dec 25, 2014
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  4. Redneck

    Redneck

    You think..., yet you gave a thumbs up to my post on uncertainty

    I made a comment where 2015 could be yours

    Do not allow that to go to your head


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    You need to think through every aspect..., every nook..., every cranny..., every crevasse comprising the system of you the trader

    Identify it..., think through it..., know it..., own it

    Anything and everything you are not sure about - ask questions


    The mkt possess the uncanny ability of finding every one of our weaknesses..., then mercilessly and incessantly exploiting it / them


    Mkt does not suffer fools well..., or for long JS

    Don't allow yourself to be one - otherwise 2015 will be your personal living hell

    RN
     
    #1014     Dec 25, 2014
  5. Ok.. It makes sense now ;)
     
    #1015     Dec 26, 2014
  6. ubo

    ubo

    Dear Redneck,

    you had mentioned "edge" in a number of recent posts, for example:

    "A true edge never cease working."
    "A true edge works in any PA environment."
    "Lost count of how many "so called" edges have gone the way of the dinosaur."
    "... edges are a dime a dozen"

    So a true edge is not a "so called" edge?
    For edges that are a dime a dozen, are they true edges or "so called" edges?

    I know you value psychological aspects of trading above all else but can you elaborate on how one should go about looking for an true edge, how to distinguish between a true edge and a so-called edge and any other further thoughts regarding the development of the edge.

    Thanks in advance and happy holidays.

    PS: Your post on uncertainty is one of the best piece of writing I have ever seen on ET. How does one develop such trading insight? Would also appreciate if you could further elaborate on how one can take fully advantage of the uncertainty. Thanks.
     
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    #1016     Dec 26, 2014
  7. jsmacksem

    jsmacksem

    When I wrote "I think" I wasn't doubting the truth about uncertainty. I meant--which I should have clarified---that it was just my 2 cents and hopefully you'd be along to answer.

    I hope your comment didn't go to my head either. I am hopeful for 2015 though.

    I'm building/researching, and on that path of owning mine.

    It's just taking a while.

    I really don't want to approach this business as a fool, so as questions arise I'll be sure to ask.

    - JS
     
    #1017     Dec 26, 2014
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  8. Redneck

    Redneck




    Ubo


    Before any reply - I want to be respectful that this is Slugar's journal


    Slugar

    You okay with continuing on this direction (tangent) for the time being - or would you prefer we get back on course

    You know me - you lead..., I follow

    RN
     
    #1018     Dec 26, 2014
  9. slugar

    slugar

    Yes sir fire away RN!
     
    #1019     Dec 26, 2014
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  10. Redneck

    Redneck

    Well then




    RN
     
    #1020     Dec 26, 2014