My next motherboard

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by nitro, Feb 21, 2004.

  1. nitro

    nitro

    I appreciate the heads up. I doubt the bugs will affect me much, but we will see.

    nitro
     
    #361     Dec 29, 2005
  2. Sneaking in here to see if anyone can help since you are familiar with installing motherboards. One of my computers went out on me a few weeks ago. The fans would come on for a minute then shut down. I never could solve the problem so I sent for another motherboard. I just installed it. The fans come on now and I can hear the hard drive come on but it doesnt boot. Nothing on the monitor and I dont hear the usual relays clicking etc. Any ideas what to try next? I used the cpu off the old board. Maybe the cpu is the problem?
     
    #362     Dec 30, 2005
  3. nitro

    nitro

    I assume this is an identical MB to the one you sent back.

    Go into setup and take a look to see if the MB detects the HD. Set it to auto if possible. Also check to make sure you have the boot sequence set correctly. Make sure the HD is getting power. I assume you have not changed master/slave settings either on the HD/CDROM if on same controller. Check to make sure the IDE cable is in right and that it is not damaged. Try just putting the HD on the cable and nothing else on chain of that cable.

    It could be lots of things, but those are the first things that come to mind. I always keep a spare MB so that I can try each component on the other MB to see if I can isolate a faulty component.

    nitro
     
    #363     Dec 30, 2005
  4. But why ? Are you planning a commercial product release ? What is there in the platform that is requiring you to do a major rewrite ?

    i switched us off the $soft platform precisely so we did not get forced into any type of "major rewrite". That is not to say that we still dont improve things but now if we decide to add or support a particular functionality its our decision, not the vendors.
     
    #364     Jan 2, 2006
  5. nitro

    nitro

    1) No commercial version of software is planned.

    2) I want to add being able to see all the relevant stats that my trading systems generate in realtime on a web server. The new ASP.Net 2.0 which can use C# as a "code behind" has encouraged me to do that. I hate php and most "for the web" programming languages.

    3) I want to add storage and data mining to my applications. The new SQLServer 2005 has some interesting things I want to try.

    4) The collections I used (in C# 1.x) were not parameterized. The new C# 2.x supports generics, which should make the implementation of collections much faster.

    5) Finally, if I want to go to 64-bits and MSWindows using .Net Framework 2.0, I have no choice but to rewrite most of the front end.

    nitro
     
    #365     Jan 3, 2006
  6. I know you like the IDE but we really cant justify the $soft environment. When we look at our development metrics for the $soft .Net environment versus the LAMP stack and C++ compoonents using frameworks we control we see very little difference. There is a lot of Buzz about SQL 2005 but everything that it does can be handled in open source platforms - you just have to do a few extra steps.

    We really cant justify letting $soft refactor interfaces at will: they are continually breaking things from release to release - even when you rigorously follow their development guidelines. They also have abandoned - without apology or reimbusement - several technologies and programming interfaces and pushed the costs onto their customers.

    Add these types of costs on top of the additional costs of their license compliance, and other administration costs and its a big additional cost over open source solutions.

    I will stop my rant ... but who has the time to be structuring their development plans to encompass $softs whims ? We dont work for our vendors, they work for us - or they get the boot ....
     
    #366     Jan 4, 2006
  7. Hi prt,

    Having observed nitro for years now, it is obvious that he still is in the state of dreaming about scraping together all kind of hardware and software hoping that at one point, in a far away rosy misty future, it is perhaps going to help him make a bit of money.

    nononsense
     
    #367     Jan 4, 2006
  8. nitro

    nitro

    Can you debug dynamic web applications in real debugger using these tools?

    LAMP stands for Linux (operating system), Apache (web server), MySQL (database) and PHP (scripting language). Everything but PHP is fine.

    WISA stands for Windows (operating system), Internet Information Services (web server), Microsoft SQL Server (database) and ASP (scripting language).

    Under WISA I can use a real object oriented programing language like C# as my scripting language and have access to a visual debugger to debug my applications. I am extremely productive in this environment.

    nitro
     
    #368     Jan 4, 2006
  9. I know you are productive ... as are we in both environments. However, its more than a simple technology decision ... its a financial decision as well. I can use a real OO language as well ... C++ or even Java - and there is more than enough scripting support outside of $soft technologies to get most things done, and done well at a superior or equivalent development cost .... however when you add up the cost over lifetime things really become uneven in favor of non $soft technologies.

    By the way, there is a school of thought - backed up by our metrics - that visual debuggers do not significantly improve developer productivity.... this is an entire research paper in itself ...
     
    #369     Jan 4, 2006
  10. JackR

    JackR

    Software holy wars are not my thing. However, it seems to me that for a one-man operation like Nitro who buys one each versus PRT-Systems (who I assume is a company with droves of developers and machines to support) the economics are much closer than would be apparent to the casual, uneducated, observer such as myself.

    Jack
     
    #370     Jan 4, 2006