my employers 401k does not allow long calls / puts what choices i have?

Discussion in 'Options' started by ggelitetrader000, Jan 25, 2019.

  1. ajacobson

    ajacobson

    "I talked to 'em the benefit admins, they won't even allow to roll into IRA while I am working. I dont know lobbying will have an effect. I can definitely ask around, but the organization is huge (200$ billion company), i doubt voice of a one guy and little guy will make any different lol."

    They won't let you roll until you leave. Size has nothing to do with it - it's philosophy. There are also states that require new plans to allow hedging - which means your plan guidelines will NEVER be rewritten.
     
    #21     Jan 25, 2019
  2. JM35

    JM35

    Do you work for JPMorgan lol? I worked there for a year and I wasn't even allowed to trade options in my own brokerage account unless they we're over a year long and you always had to be buying, couldn't ever sell.
     
    #22     Jan 25, 2019
  3. smallfil

    smallfil

    Fidelity is very strict. I have approval on my trust account to trade options buying, calls and puts, spreads. I ask them to give me approval for my IRA and they will only approve covered calls. I just transfer monies to my trust account and trade options. Of course, the tax advantage is gone since, it is a regular account. Never had the same problem with TD Ameritrade and Scottrade (bought out by TD Ameritrade). Dumb really. You are approved for trading options on one account but, they disapprove the IRA?
     
    #23     Jan 25, 2019
  4. ironchef

    ironchef

    You can trade options up to level 2 with you Schwab IRA.
     
    #24     Jan 25, 2019
  5. Yeah you can't withdraw from reg IRA before age 59 1/2 without 10% penalty, plus tax hit. I would do the Roth IRA if I could do it again. No taxes. The contribution and conversion rules have gotten better in the last few years. I would convert mine, but you have to wait 5 years to withdraw any earnings after conversion. You can take out contributions, tho. I'm 61 so I might need it at any time!

     
    #25     Jan 26, 2019
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  6. ironchef

    ironchef

    Don't fight city hall, your best option is to roll your 401K into a Rollover IRA then you can trade options up to long side spread, straddle, strangle, butterfly, condor, calendar.
     
    #26     Jan 26, 2019
  7. ET180

    ET180

    I did that. IB also allows cash-secured short puts.
     
    #27     Jan 26, 2019
  8. No it was not fidelity that they were restricted. they actually allowed making all sort of levels on my 401k account including level i,ii,ii etc., it is my employer's policy that restricted it. thx.
     
    #28     Jan 26, 2019
  9. I had very old account with Ameritrade which I logged in just now and still active although no fund. I just applied online and option level ii trading approved instantly with IRA anew. Isn't that too easy or I hope I am not missing something?
     
    #29     Jan 26, 2019