My Chick Goslin "Intelligent Futures Trading" Journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by AshanD, Jun 3, 2008.

  1. TGM

    TGM

    Ok Ashan, two tips for you. Then I will go back to being silent.

    The first one me and Chick talked about today.

    ML Velocity-- you may be at a disadvantage by the way your charting the ML. By not looking at the ML in dots/squares or some kind of format that allows you to see how far the ML has moved from the day before. This is invaluable. When the ML is moving in Gaps it represents a lot more velocity and the odds of a continuation are considerably higher than if it is just creeping along. You use a line to represent the ML. Which is fine, I have done it in the past. But I found using it like SMR helps in this regard.

    Second tip is in regard to %'s of margin. Different market segments offer different margin characteristics. So when figuring 50% and 100% of margin for profit you may be better off taking this into consideration. I only have two clear examples.

    In regards to true commodities like Corn. It is not uncommon to see it under-margined and have a move go for 250% of margin in a good trend. On the hand, in regards to the S&P 500 if I am ever up 50% of margin. I am looking to lock some profits down immediately. There was a time when I would be up 1k in an ES trade and had to run to the door with it or it would be gone.

    These two segments grains and stock indexes represent this tendency in regards to margins. And ask Chick about this as well.

    We do this subconsciously and you would to with experience. I am just trying to give you a heads up right now. By learning how to adjust % of margins according to the 'nature' of different segments can help you right now.

    that's all and I enjoy reading your journal
     
    #121     Jul 24, 2008
  2. monti1a

    monti1a

    You guys....Ashan and TGM are putting out some awesome info...thanks so much.
     
    #122     Jul 24, 2008
  3. TGM

    TGM


    I messed up one thing in the above statement. In regards to the first cross on that last big rally, the market was crosscurrent NOT concurrent.

    The anti worked brilliantly because the ML was ramping up. The first cross happened from a crosscurrent mode. The market then went concurrent and took out the previous high.

    The point I would make is that IF the market is crosscurrent and there has been a good trend (subjective) these tend to test the highs taking the market back concurrent. BUT these more often mark the end of the trend for a while. The ML does not have near the velocity of a 'freshly' concurrent ML.

    On the other hand, if you go back and look at all the very successful antis and smaller pullbacks you will notice a positive building ML (the more velocity the better). These tend to outperform the others by multiples. And you take no heat on them. They just explode for 50-100% of margin.
     
    #123     Jul 24, 2008
  4. bradcox3

    bradcox3

    Ashan and TGM,
    Great stuff,
    TGM, I am not totally sure what Anti and Antis are.
    Is there any way you can put a number or an X on the
    areas on the chart you are referring to? I understand
    concurrent and crosscurrent mode.
    Thanks, just trying to be a better trader. Love Chick's book.
    Jack
     
    #124     Jul 25, 2008
  5. TGM

    TGM


    Jack,

    I am not going to put up any more charts on Ashan's thread discussing other methods or LBR's tricks. The anti pattern has been around a long time in one way shape manner or form. You can google 'LBR Anti'. Or you can buy the book that made it famous to the traders --Street Smarts.

    I understand you are just curious and trying to be a better trader. But I have already said enough on this thread regarding other methods/tricks.

    Lets let Ashan get stuff back on track.
     
    #125     Jul 25, 2008
  6. Just to set the record straight (maybe for the first time!), the real originator of the 'Anti' (although it was not called that) is Security Market Research (SMR) and the genesis of the concept was contained in their original trading manual published circa 1975. SMR was also the originator of the 3/10/16 dubbed as the "SMR Timing Indices" clear back in 1969 or so....and they still provide a chart service with their own proprietary buy/sell signals. They are at www.smr.com


    Oh and thanks to you Ashan for being so kind as to allow us to digress off topic of your trading approach to discuss these concepts.
     
    #126     Jul 25, 2008
  7. bradcox3

    bradcox3

    Thanks guys,
    I appreciate the help!
    Jack
     
    #127     Jul 25, 2008
  8. AshanD

    AshanD

    Couple letters put out by Chick yesterday:

    Friday early morning (1:00 am)

    Friday midday (11:00am)

    Chick went over the VIX with me before. He told me it was appropriate to call it a “fear index”. The VIX measures the premium that the options sellers charge on the options they sell. When the VIX rises the premium is higher, and vice versa. Since the options sellers tend to be large, sophisticated institutions, they’re the smart money crowd. So when the smart money isn’t too scared of the downside and the VIX doesn’t drop in proportion to what it “should” on a down day, there is a next day up signal.

    I added another ER2 contract so I’ve hit the contract limit for that trade now. Trend is still mildly down but ML up cycle is very powerful to the upside. SL is also turning down from long term highs so there may be another down day or 2 but otherwise this looks like a good short term trade, or maybe a longer term one if the momentum looks good enough to override or change the trend.
     
    #128     Jul 26, 2008
  9. AshanD

    AshanD

    I have always used the layout shown in my previous pictures to chart the markets, but TGM’s suggestion and pictures were enough for me to tweak the format and make some changes. It is now radically different from before.

    1) The bars are spaced apart a little more than before making the daily activity much easier to read.

    2) The momentum lines (ML and SL) are much easier to read because the window size was almost doubled. Combined with #1 and a dotted line in the ML, this makes reading the SL/ML cycles and emerging patterns so much easier. My old charts were far inferior for charting the momentum lines.

    3) Increasing the momentum line window has shrunk the price window. So to correct this without distorting the price bars I had to manually set a range for the price window to graph. This centers the price flows o the window doesn’t look like an artificial barrier if price is close to the highs on the window, as well as scaling the size of each price movement correctly because there are no year old bar values that are forcing the whole price window to zoom out.

    I like the changes quite a bit, reading my old charts was sometimes unpleasant because of the problems there were with scaling and a small window for the momentum lines. Now everything is large and easy to read and understand. I have a picture of Cotton below to show the difference as well as the reasons why cotton seems like a good long despite trend down, and ML down and just recently turning up (and why Chick liked the trade even when it was down)

    I wish I had more time to post pictures for all the markets to show what I am seeing, but just no time right now. I may be able to tomorrow.


    Copper is no longer appealing for a trade to me. The issue I mentioned earlier of the market getting ready to drop a large 2+ week dip in price is now starting to enter the 10 day “anticipation” zone. So it could be disregarded if we wanted to trust the current lines, but it is still a issue in the background. The other big problem is the ML getting ready to drop a large downcycle from the SL, this will start weakening the ML in 2-3 days unless SL continues lower from here right away. This could very well happen which would keep the picture very negative, but copper is not as appealing as it was last week.

    Gold and silver are also dropping a “valley” in the SL soon so the ML will weakening somewhat, but SL in both is already at lower lows. It is also turning though. In Silver there is a lower high so this new lower low will start a small series to the downside. Trend has also flattened there. Problem for shorts is Friday had Platinum the strongest, with silver and gold about the same. This is just one day but slightly points to the upside. I would ideally like to see another 2 up days in gold/silver with platinum the weakest to make a good case for shorts.

    All currencies are having the MLs dropping a 3 week old valley in the SLs. But like the metals the SLs are already lower than before and SLs are strongly down, so it may be worth it to go with them anyways on a good up day. The most desirable short for me is the Yen and the Swiss. The Swiss has a weaker up trend than the euro, it is actually flat here, and the swiss has 2 separate series of SL making lower lows and highs (broken by the 3rd cycle where the SL made higher highs) The major advantage of the Yen is that it tends to move opposite stocks. I know Chick has said the Swiss was better than the euro for longs in the past when stocks were weak, so this probably means the swiss is also better for shorts when stocks are strong. The pattern so far has certainly showed that.

    Natural gas has had 9 consecutive down days. I caught most of the move with a pair of mini contracts and part of the move with a full size contract, so profits here have been exceptional. Bear markets move faster than bull markets so this is not unreasonable, but still unexpected because I figured there would be some upside relief but there literally was none. This market may be pushing it now. I mentioned earlier when it would become psychologically painful to hold onto a position when profits were so good, here is an example of that. I think I will exit my mini contracts on Sunday. Even if there is another down day I will just let it go and wait for a rally to come (if one ever does)

    Grains are mixed with wheat actually looking a bit positive like Chick mentioned, and corn about ready to finish a very long down cycle in the ML (or maybe not if downside pressure continues) The best pattern looks to be soybeans. Its trend is flat and ML is on the strongest down cycle of all commodities (It looks like Natural gas when it was starting) Problem is that Soybeans was the strongest of the group for quite some time and the rule is we want to long the strongest and short the weakest in a group, soybeans was the strongest but now the lines are the best for shorts. I’m not sure if this means it’s planning to play catchup and plummet like corn/wheat, or if its downside move will be temporary and it will keep its gains better than the other 2 like I’d expect from the strongest commodity. I will probably short this one lightly due to poor group relative strength.

    All softs continue to be very weak with sugar showing the best downside pattern. I have a total of 7 shorts there (not a big position since this is the smallest contract) Coffee is still very negative but price is at levels where there has been a year+ sideways range. So I may short one contract just to be with the lines and perhaps squeeze out a decent profit if coffee drops to the bottom of the range. It will be interesting to see if it will break through. Chick says not to give too much weight to these ranges but it can be tough psychologically.

    The cocoa trade now looks like a clear downside candidate with my more readable charts and the commodity wide bear market. It has had a good up day so I will lightly short one contract here. If tomorrow holds even or gets some more up I’ll probably add a couple contracts.

    Stocks have certainly been stronger on the upside than downside recently. This can sometimes be an intermediate term fluctuation (which is why we have a trend line to show overall direction) but with the VIX continuing to put out next day up signals, trends weakening, MLS pulling up hard after a prolonged period of downwards grinding from SLs making lower lows and highs, it finally looks like time for a turn up in price movement. Still have to be careful since trend is down and can not be anticipated up yet, but I am comfortable with my ER2 position. Of course I remember saying that with the NQ contracts too, then I exited on the lows. But that is the nature of this game and the reason why getting into marginal trades is risky. Lets hope this time is different (dangerous words I know)

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    #129     Jul 26, 2008
  10. monti1a

    monti1a

    That's not really a dotted line..that is a dashed line for the ML...I think TGM wanted specifically a dotted line exactly like the SMR Pro charts.

    You can probably see the 'velocity' of the ML a little better with a dotted line as opposed to a dashed line.
     
    #130     Jul 27, 2008