I believe in being energy efficient for the sake of being energy efficient. Wastefullness is never a good policy or habit to develop. That said, the idea that global warming is caused by man burning fossil fuels is beyond a joke. It is a scam being thrust upon unwitting people for the sole purpose of furthering a political agenda. I watched Al Gore's movie An Inconvenient Truth. My formal education is in science and engineering and I found the "science" in the movie to be totally lacking. It is filled with gross errors in methodolgy that would flunk any science student were they to committ those same errors.
You have shown pollution, not warming. World War II generated significant pollution. No subsequent warming was observed.
according to gW 'fanatics' CO2 is responsible for gW itself. pollution caused by cars exahusts is infact CO2 and what u see on those photos is exactly that. slum dunk case if u ask them...
A quick question for those of you who think Global warming is a hallucination. What exactly is your motive? Is every one of you working in a high polluting industry and therefore out to save your job? or are you guys all being secretly paid by the US govt. to post on message boards ( not an unlikely scenario ) I can understand the viewpoint of the anti-pollution "Global warming exists" faction. After all, all they want is to leave a better healthier planet for their great grand-children. However, what I do not understand is the position of the pro-pollution crowd. Maybe one of you can clearly state the reason for your pro-pollution stance ( instead of resorting to usual ad hominem attacks)
Alarmists always take comfort in the fact that enough gullible people will not be old enough to remember or will have forgotten the last scam that was the opposite of the current scam. What ever happened to the GLOBAL COOLING CRISIS of the 70's? This from a Time article, dated June 24, 1974: As they review the bizarre and unpredictable weather pattern of the past several years, a growing number of scientists are beginning to suspect that many seemingly contradictory meteorological fluctuations are actually part of a global climatic upheaval. ............... .............they find that the atmosphere has been growing gradually cooler for the past three decades. The trend shows no indication of reversing. ...............the weather aberrations they are studying may be the harbinger of another ice age. Telltale signs are everywhere--from the unexpected persistence and thickness of pack ice in the waters around Iceland to the southward migration of a warmth-loving creature like the armadillo from the Midwest. Since the 1940s the mean global temperature has dropped about 2.7 degrees F. ... When Climatologist George G. Kukla of Columbia University's Lamong-Doherty Geological Observatory and his wife Helena analyzed satellite weather data for the Northern Hemisphere, they found that the area of the ice and snow cover had suddenly increased by 12% in 1971 and the increase has persisted ever since. Areas of Baffin Island in the Canadian Arctic, for example, were once totally free of any snow in summer; now they are covered year round. ........... cooler weather was probably due to less energy reaching the Earth from the Sun. But: Man, too, may be somewhat responsible for the cooling trend. The University of Wisconsin's Reid A. Bryson and other climatologists suggest that dust and other particles released into the atmosphere as a result of farming and fuel burning may be blocking more and more sunlight from reaching and heating the surface of the earth. ..............Warns [Climatologist Kenneth] Hare: "I don't believe that the world's present popuation is sustainable if there are more than three years like 1972 in a row." So much for hard science. When they can more accurately predict the weather next week, I'll take their "crisis" claims more seriously.
we dont belive gW is an hallucination, we know it is very real but we dont necessarily believe it is man made. i dont trust politicians and this issue is highly politicized at the point of falsifying data, manipulating scientists views [some have even threaten to sue] and refusing to debate the issue. there's no conclusive evidence CO2 is responsible for gW, infact after several ice cores surveys, the opposite pattern has emerged...meaning CO2 lags gW and higher temps by hundreds of years therefore it is more likely to be byproducts, a fallout. i am all in for improving the environment but i am against a global carbon tax imposed on us by the UN....and believe me, it is gonna come.
I've been through this one with my Dad -- who is about as conservative as they come. It's a right wing talking point and has nothing to do with the facts of the current matter. The stuff from the 70's did not reflect the views of the scientific community of the times -- although many "right wing" types are trying to make it out to be the case. If you are really doubtful take a look at the pictures showing the change in glaciers worldwide. The planet is warming. There is no doubt about that. People might debate the causes but the fact of the warming is incontrovertible. Now is it so hard to do something nice for the next generation and consume more wisely just in case we are at fault? This is just my $.02 but it takes an incredibly arrogant egotistical person to say I just don't care. The glaciation evidence is enough by itself to show we have a problem -- whatever the cause.
there's no such thing as a consenus. that's what u have been led to believe by the ipcc with its biased and poorly researched document. u are also wrong about the glaciers. father of gW says so and he changed his mind recently after he did more research. all i can tell u is dig deeper, not all things are as they appear to be or as u have been told the are, there is an agenda in place and skeptic scientists are either silenced or threatened with losing thier jobs...skeptics have been even compared to holocaust deniers, go figure. Opposition To Global Warming Severely Suppressed Silenced Global Warming Critics Expose Gore's Hoax By Lawrence Hecht Executive Intelligence Review 3-9-7 Sources: Daily Mail, Canada Post and Others 3-5-7 The Gore climate machine loves to claim that there is no scientific opposition to their human-caused global warming fraud. It's a lie. The real truth is that anyone who criticizes it is either misrepresented or silenced. Some examples: ** Prof. Paul Reiter of the Pasteur Institute in Paris said the list of scientists endorsing the recent Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report was a "sham," because it included the names of panel scientists who disagreed with its exaggerated climate predictions. Reiter, an expert in malaria, told the London Daily Mail that he only got his name removed after he threatened a lawsuit. "That is how they make it seem that all the top scientists are agreed," Prof. Reiter said. In a report in the Jan.-Feb. 2000 issue of {Emerging Infectious Diseases}, Reiter showed that the claim that the increase in malaria was due to climate change was absurd. Dr. Reiter contributed a Viewpoint to {21st Century Science}, Winter 2003. ** Senior French physicist and pioneer of isotope studies Claude Allegre came out against global warming last September, after having been one of its most outspoken proponents for over 15 years. His case is featured today in Canada's National Post, in an ongoing series called "The Deniers." Fifteen years ago, Dr. Allegre, had been among the 1,500 scientists who signed a highly publicized letter stressing that global warming's "potential risks are very great." But last September, in an article in {l'Express} ("The Snows of Kilimanjaro"), Allegre said that the retreat of the Kilimanjaro glacier had nothing to do with human-produced carbon dioxide, and also pointed to growth in the Antarctic glacier. There is no basis for saying, as most do, that the "science is settled," he said. A member of the U.S. and French Academies of Science, Allegre is a pioneer in the field of isotope geodynamics, a method of dating past events like the formation of the atmosphere, by isotope signatures. He participated in the Apollo lunar program, where he helped determine the age of the Moon. Allegre is also a leading figure in the Socialist Party and served as Education Minister. ** Oregon State Climatologist George Taylor is under threat of losing his job for arguing that most climate change is the result of natural variations, not human-produced carbon dioxide. Despite threats from the Governor and a pending bill in the legislatures to have him removed, sponsored by Democratic State Sen. Brad Avakian, Taylor has held firm. "If the facts change, I'll change my mind. So far, I haven't," Taylor told a climate change conference at Oregon State University. Taylor has held the title of "state climatologist" since 1991, when the legislature created a state climate office at OSU. ** Chris Landsea, one of the world's foremost experts on hurricanes, resigned from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change in January 2005, in protest over their bias. He wrote an open letter shortly before the issuance of the IPCC's Fourth Assessment Report. Dr Kevin Trenberth, the lead author of a part of the IPCC report had participated in a press conference claiming the 2004 Atlantic hurricane season was caused by greenhouse gases. Wrote Landsea: "To my knowledge none of the participants in that press conference had performed any research on hurricane variability, nor were they reporting on any new work in the field. All previous and current research in the area of hurricane variability has shown no reliable, long-term trend up in the frequency or intensity of tropical cyclones, either in the Atlantic or any other basin."
Umm... You get that off Lyndon Larouche's site and want to suggest it's a credible representation of the state of play?