Multiple Trades Total Performance

Discussion in 'Trading' started by LeoK, Aug 6, 2003.

  1. LeoK

    LeoK

    Let's say I have one trade with performance 10% and another trade with performance -6%. How to calculate combined performance from 2 trades?
     
  2. maxpi

    maxpi

    Convert them from percentages to multipliers of your account, the 10% becomes a 1.1 and the 6% loss becomes .94. Then you can multiply them together to get the overall effect on your account of the two trades.
     
  3. LeoK

    LeoK

    We are testing a strategy. Our testing program generates a number of trades and calculates % profit / loss on each one.

    Trades are in different instruments and prices, so cost base for each one is different.

    We don't know what size of account is required to trade the strategy if it is successful, so we cannot correlate with the account size.

    The question is: how to calculate combined performance for such a sequence of trade if we have profit for each one in %s.
     
  4. You mention "sequence of trades" - does this mean you only take one trade at a time? Please give a specific example of some trades in different instruments together with all relevant info (% profit, is it concurrent with another trade etc.) and then exactly what you wish to calculate and the assumptions to be used (what % of capital you invest per instrument etc.).
    Otherwise, maxpi has provided you with the answer.
     
  5. LeoK

    LeoK

    We are testing a strategy that can be used
    concurrently in multiple instruments.
    It is one trade at a time in each instrument.

    Here are some of the trades generated by our program:

    Market,Start,Duration,End,Profit
    AA,19880812,43,19881012,13.3365821962313
    AA,19881117,43,19890119,17.3039215686275
    AA,19911004,43,19911204,0
    AA,19950131,43,19950331,8.57845649277442
    AA,19950921,43,19951120,-2.32731612710727
    AA,19970401,43,19970530,7.87083162398172
    AA,19990305,28,19990414,20,-11.5394082607197
    AA,20000121,43,20000322,-9.59461279461279
    AA,20010323,24,20010426,20.2777777777778
    AA,20010614,43,20010814,-10.0968523002421
    AA,20010917,43,20011114,14.5987654320988
    AAPL,19890621,43,19890821,-1.74418604651163
    AAPL,19901224,28,19910201,20
    AAPL,19910502,43,19910702,-10.5263157894737
    AAPL,19930609,21,19930708,-18.8888888888889
    AAPL,19941004,6,19941011,20
    AAPL,19950227,43,19950427,0.325732899022801
    AAPL,19950915,43,19951114,9.69899665551839
    AAPL,19980901,8,19980911,20
    AAPL,19981005,43,19981203,10.9926470588235
    AAPL,19990308,36,19990427,22.1616541353383
    AAPL,20000413,28,20000523,-1.9170403587444
    AAPL,20020610,17,20020702,-20.7169459962756

    Trades in different markets may or may not coincide.

    We are trying to optimize this strategy and make it
    usable.
    We need to compare results of different tests with
    each other.

    Until testing is completed we cannot say how big
    account is required to trade this strategy or how much
    money should be allocated for each instrument.
    Percentages are calculated based on equity invested
    into each trade.

    Considering that percentages are based not an account
    size but on a trade equity size we are not sure that
    multiplying percentages to get total effect of the
    strategy will give us the correct result.
    One consideration is that we are not reinvesting the
    profit into the next trade, we just trying to compare
    test runs with each other.

    We would appreciate your advice.
     
  6. damir00

    damir00 Guest

    i don't think you're using enough decimal places.

     
  7. damir00

    damir00 Guest

    if you don't know the size of the account and you have overlapping variable-sized trades then IMO you don't yet have a system because you cannot even say whether or not there will be enough free cash laying around to make the trades(!)

    pick an account size that seems "reasonable" based on the max amount you can have in play at any one time.

     
  8. From a quick glance at your data, it appears you are exiting the trades upon reaching a 20% profit/loss or 43 trading days, whichever comes first.

    Assuming that you "are not reinvesting the profit into the next trade" and that the "trade equity size" remains constant for each instrument, you would have to add (not multiply) the percentages in order to obtain the "combined performance". Any deviation from the above assumptions (and I'm sure there will be some) would naturally need to be taken into account.