Multi-price Flipping. Rotter?

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by squadron leader, Nov 13, 2006.

  1. Mr B

    Mr B

    hmmmm, multiprice flipping y'say.....

    I've seen it before in the bund all the time, usually after 5pm London time

    during the rollovers there is a lot of gapping in the Eurex.
     
    #11     Nov 13, 2006
  2. I know Vlad and last i heard he wasnt going near Eurex due to their sh!tty laggy data updates (heartbeat), slow order processing, cancels & acknowledgements.
     
    #12     Nov 13, 2006
  3. The guy's got style!

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    #13     Nov 13, 2006
  4. heres the Trader Monthly article:
     
    #14     Nov 13, 2006
  5. amazing story
     
    #15     Nov 13, 2006
  6. Anyone mind explaining what price flipping or multi price flipping is? Thanks. :D
     
    #16     Nov 13, 2006
  7. flipping a price from bid to offered (or vice versa) without actually trading any of it.

    e.g. bidding up a price to give the illusion of bid, then yanking your bid and offering the contract.

    this is now being done not just on the bid/offer, but on the prices adjacent to the bid/offer...therefore flipping prices from bid, to 3/4 ticks lower in an instant.
     
    #17     Nov 13, 2006
  8. the bund is also seeing periods of 2 tick markets , which havn't been around for years. I wonder if this is going to drive liquidity from an otherwise very liquid contract ?
     
    #18     Nov 14, 2006
  9. me1969

    me1969

    The bund is quite jumpy today (3 ticks sometimes with one big order), but I do not think flipping will affect the liquitdity of the bund.
     
    #19     Nov 14, 2006
  10. Dogfish

    Dogfish

    The bank traders are getting annoyed by this because it's screwing up their MTS quotes on the cash which are priced from the futures.

    It's a play on the cash market, if he can get more orders filled on the cash by moving bund future than he has to fill on the blip he's making money. Whereas rotter broke the back of locals just trading futures this guy's after the cash market taking it off the institutions trading MTS
     
    #20     Nov 14, 2006