msty thread - YieldMax etf product

Discussion in 'Crypto Assets' started by johnarb, May 16, 2025.


  1. This one is 15X but is long a lot of vega. You just need to stop with AI bc it's rotting what's left of your PFC.
     
    #191     May 18, 2025
  2. wxytrader

    wxytrader

    I'm just going to assume it's an asymmetric fly...fly's are your go to. :)
     
    #192     May 18, 2025
  3. I will not respond any further. I've been down this road with you before. It's not an asym-fly.

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    #193     May 18, 2025
  4. spy

    spy

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    #194     May 18, 2025
  5. wxytrader

    wxytrader

    Ah then its a back ratio spread...

    Most Likely Strategy: Back Ratio Call Spread
    A net debit trade where you're long more calls than you are short

    Example setup (not exact but illustrative):

    • Sell 1x MSTR 360 Call

    • Buy 2x MSTR 400 Calls
    If scaled to large size (e.g., 3,000 short calls, 6,000 long), you’d get:

    • Flat max loss between the short and long strikes

    • Unlimited upside above the long strike

    • Limited risk due to excess longs

    • Low buying power under portfolio margin (alluded to TIMS ~30K vs RegT 500K)
     
    #195     May 18, 2025
  6. spy

    spy

    ...once you're back from the Beckster's snipe hunt you should check out my journal.
     
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    #196     May 18, 2025
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    I will note once again -- financial firms normally do not provide price and NAV returns with dividends re-invested in their summaries. It is very misleading and not proper. Especially when they fail to clear disclose that the results are with dividends re-invested.

    If they wanted to break it out and show returns without dividends re-invested and a separate section with the dividends re-invested then that would potentially be considered a proper disclosure -- but YieldMax does not do this.
     
    #197     May 18, 2025
  8. wxytrader

    wxytrader

    Well that changes everything! Tell me something is your 2.5% yield with or without drip? Lol
     
    #198     May 18, 2025
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Here is an educational video for you...

     
    #199     May 18, 2025
  10. wxytrader

    wxytrader

    Ya, just another uninformed capital obsessed investor like yourself. To me, capital is just a workhorse. I don't care if it drops as long as it continues to earn. Yield Max focuses on earnings not gains... It's not a free lunch.... If you by at the wrong time you may be down on nav even with dividends in ... But over time you should catch up . As with any investment, timing is important . I'm still up just on capital :)

    You can go back 3 years on Reddit and have guys like him raging against it while everybody else is collecting huge and paying off their cars LOL.

    It's basically sour grapes the same you saw with Bitcoin... they don't understand it so they just hate on it.

    Let's not forget my Hulk strategy was the first strategy I saw (shared during covid) where I showed that atm premium collected over time will overcome capital losses... Back tested and everything on my spreadsheet.
     
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    #200     May 18, 2025