MSTR Discussion

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by SimbasPryde, Oct 8, 2024.

  1. johnarb

    johnarb

    It's really way above my head, but some of it makes sense on the surface, I take it on face-value with some grain of salt,

    Josh seems to be speaking from experience, but of course may be outdated as he's retired
    I took the trade but I'm already very bullish as mentioned in the previous post because of tailwinds imho

    The June 2025 calls are "cheaper" on the IV's(?)

    It's a new year, taxes will be due next year, so I can be aggressive again, these June calls risk capital only $50k, asymmetric risk-reward, looking for at least 600% roi within 3-4 months (hopefully)

    More aggressive capital outlay, I'm trying out an income-based approach,

    Purchased $250k of msty, but looking forward to when I can switch to 1000 mstr shares sometime later this year

    and doing CC's myself and timing the ups and downs of mstr on 300-400 shares, it looks like it might be a fun experience

    Anyway, in Josh's own words below on his trade idea, southern drawl(?) notwithstanding...

     
    #381     Jan 14, 2025
  2. VOLdemort

    VOLdemort

    It's not that they are cheap per se, but that there isn't any significant unhedged exposure. And DITM calls don't have any gamma (as delta approaches 100). So the idea that there is a natural bid to the shares due to exercise demand is silly.

    It's purely beta.
     
    #382     Jan 14, 2025
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  3. Reddit (GME)
    • The FTDs are supposedly in ETFs that are supposed to own a certain percentage of GME shares.
    • Effectively, the slight of hand is in the creation and redemption of ETF wrappers.
    • An ETF can be sold before it has been created, and this is deemed to be sufficient to meet the delivery of an actual security/share in the stock itself.
    • Hence, the stock (GME) is deemed to have been delivered.
    • However, they then FTD within the ETF. The T+35 relates to the FTD within the ETF supposedly holding GME shares.
    • Those shares do have to be bought, but you won't find a direct reference to them.
    • What is being said is that you're looking in the wrong place if you want to find the FTDs that'll impact the GME shares price.

    [​IMG]


    I fell into this rabbit hole with GME....basically you have to look for large areas of ftds and then see if they are being offloaded to an etf via a redemption wrapper.

    On the MSTX chart that they are receiving a large amount of ftd's so these could be the ftd's from MSTR being offloaded as explained in the reddit post.

    https://chartexchange.com/symbol/nasdaq-mstx/failure-to-deliver/
    https://chartexchange.com/symbol/nasdaq-mstr/failure-to-deliver/

    If we start at the large bar on NOV21 and count T+35 days, 35 calendar days later would be December 26, 2024 - Jan 1 2025

    View attachment 358148

    This correlates with price action on Jan3.

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    Can somebody get @johnarb to read this? Unless he is content staying ignorant on the subject...:)
     
    #383     Jan 14, 2025
  4. VOLdemort

    VOLdemort

    lol yawn. it's like stating that futures drive CB FX flows. you and vz should start a fund.
     
    #384     Jan 14, 2025
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  5. Wait total return -92k...so you have given back all of your profits from your original purchase of 160k!

    What's your position? 20 550 strike contracts @ $82?

    Imo, you have seen the peak pnl ($500k) already...just too much for price to overcome playing catch up against theta decay. I hate to say I told you so, but I did tell you about the potential risk of a correction...

    Just by eyeballing it, we could see it bounce around and still be mid 400's by expiry.

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    #385     Jan 15, 2025
  6. VicBee

    VicBee

    In the meantime, BTC up over 100k and MSTR up at 368...

    Eying 400
     
    #386     Jan 15, 2025
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  7. VOLdemort

    VOLdemort

    lol the resident microcephalic shorted the bottom tick... again.
     
    #387     Jan 15, 2025
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  8. maxinger

    maxinger


    @VOLdemort is a reta*ded microcephalic SPT.
     
    #388     Jan 15, 2025
  9. VOLdemort

    VOLdemort

    reported.
     
    #389     Jan 15, 2025
  10. maxinger

    maxinger

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    #390     Jan 15, 2025