MSTR Discussion

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by SimbasPryde, Oct 8, 2024.

  1. johnarb

    johnarb

    might be mstr ATM selling mate, or convertible debt hedge-shorts(?)

    it's a 1-2 day event, most likely, mate, be prepared for mstr to go back up much higher after today or tomorrow
     
    #201     Nov 13, 2024
  2. @johnarb lol not tracking bitcoin anymore? At some point they are going to realize that this will top out, and drop 80%...you think they want to be holding the bag when that happens? It's going to be a game of chicken with the big funds. The dumping of their shares will facilitate the drop that the chart is already projecting...and will allow them to pay off debts and get in again at a lower price. Rinse. Repeat. They will figure out the retail game eventually lol....the are a decade too late, but they'll get there. :)

    If they are doing the strategy of buying bitcoin to leverage to buy more bitcoin to leverage to buy more bitcoin etc then they will be in a world of hurt.
     
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    #202     Nov 13, 2024
  3. S2007S

    S2007S


    That's exactly what I'm getting at. The amount t of debt they are issuing to buy bitcoin is insanity. What happens when bitcoin falls below the purchase prices of bitcoin. There last purchase came at 72k, cost avg now at 42k. When bitcoin plummets below 40k whats going to happen then?
    No one is questioning any of this until after the fact it happens.
     
    #203     Nov 13, 2024
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  4. Like I said, this is turning into a game of chicken with the big boys lol...what is their break even when you include the bitcoin they are leveraging to buy more bitcoin which I am assuming they are doing. It can't be all cash purchases.
     
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    #204     Nov 13, 2024
  5. 2rosy

    2rosy

    How levered is mstr? It's implied volatility is 3x that of bitcoin.
     
    #205     Nov 13, 2024
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  6. johnarb

    johnarb

    S2007S is the only one shorting mstr and mstr-proxies, respect, all others gotta put money where...
     
    #206     Nov 13, 2024
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  7. S2007S

    S2007S

    Its great when everything is jumping and going only 1 way but damn when this trade unwinds it's going to be one for the history books.
    It works now because of the uprising of bitcoin but literally one collapse in bitcoin and it's over...there is literally too much risk buying shares of this company hoping bitcoin rises forever and ever.
     
    #207     Nov 13, 2024
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  8. S2007S

    S2007S

    Thank you for the shout out. I'm down on my shorts as you already know but still sticking with them.

    I was going to short MSTU today but said bitcoin is headed to 100k and left it alone however I see now it would have made for a spectacular trade.
     
    #208     Nov 13, 2024
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  9. johnarb

    johnarb

    bitcoin went down $5k from $93k
     
    #209     Nov 13, 2024
  10. Liquidation threshold is higher than the break even when borrowing.

    Loan amount / 83.33% = Liquidation threshold...from google for a crypto loan.
     
    #210     Nov 13, 2024