MSTR Discussion

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by SimbasPryde, Oct 8, 2024.

  1. S2007S

    S2007S


    So msft will become a Bitcoin meme stock and will be worth 10 trillion by end of 2025 considering that mstr is worth 50 billion with zero earnings....

    Then all the other tech companies can buy bitcoin and put it on their balance sheets creating one massive bitcoin bonanza and will have the nasdaq well above 100k by 2027.

    The free money train is just awesome
     
    #131     Nov 6, 2024
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  2. johnarb

    johnarb

    Microsoft is only considering for this vote to use a small portion of their cash treasury, like 5% and buy bitcoin to use as treasury asset

    Think about it, if a company like AAPL has $100-200B, they are losing $3-14B+ to inflation ,depends on what you believe about the inflation numbers

    If the company puts 5% of cash to bitcoin for treasury, and bitcoin doubles or more in price, it pays for the inflation for the rest of the cash holdings,

    sure, there's a chance to lose $3-6B but still less than doing nothing, it's an asymmetric trade

    Doing nothing is being lazy and getting sued by the shareholders for failing fiduciary duty into considering this move

    mstr has already laid down the groundwork and got the FASB to change the bitcoin accounting rule so the bitcoin in the treasury is not a toxic asset

    Gamestop and Hertz should do it, they are zombies, anyway
     
    #132     Nov 6, 2024
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  3. johnarb

    johnarb

    Do you think Ford should use some of their cash to buy bitcoin before mstr buys $42B worth?


     
    #133     Nov 7, 2024
  4. S2007S

    S2007S



    Every single traded equity starting at this second should buy bitcoin. If mstr which without bitcoin would be worth maybe 20 bucks a share but with bitcoin mstr stock is an unlimited printing press.....
    So if ford bought bitcoin today it would skyrocket 10 fold to over 100 a share and carry a market capitalization somewhere around half a trillion. Like a magical fairytale bitcoin Ford shares would magically rise...and guess what??? From that point on earnings wouldn't matter, the stock would literally defy the law of gravity. !!!
     
    #134     Nov 7, 2024
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  5. johnarb

    johnarb

    Absolutely!! The problem we have is convincing the board of directors at these companies, they are not visionaries

    and do not see that this is the way to increase shareholder value for every single traded equity
     
    #135     Nov 7, 2024
  6. S2007S

    S2007S


    Convincing???

    Mstr is all the proof you need. I mean with bitcoin going to a million and then 2... 3.....4... 5.... .8... 10 million every board should be approving this free money immediately.
     
    #136     Nov 7, 2024
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  7. johnarb

    johnarb

    Every board would approve it, but they need to be presented with the choice to vote, first... also it's not free money, though, bitcoin is now $75k each
     
    #137     Nov 7, 2024
  8. @johnarb @S2007S

    You must consider the very real possibility the government could implement an unrealized gains tax down the road, which would nullify the effectiveness of this strategy. Also what are the books going to look like during the typical 80% drawdown? Yes it would be buying time for us, but how will the company sustain itself if they are suddenly insolvent with no meaningful software revenue?

    AI Overview
    As of September 11, 2023, MicroStrategy Inc's (MSTR) Altman Z-Score was 0.73, which is below the distress zone of 1.81. This suggests that the company may face financial distress in the coming years.


    The irony is not lost on me that I just used google AI to find information that supports a company is potentially in distress when said company develops AI technology. :)
     
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    #138     Nov 7, 2024
  9. johnarb

    johnarb

    Unrealized gains will be for all investments, mstr is a public company as well as msft, they may have exceptions to that

    AI is telling you to short or buy puts on mstr, but you just have to time it to a bear market, good luck
     
    #139     Nov 7, 2024
  10. You never know what can happen, but the fact that they are even floating the idea around is concerning. Also, I don't short anything...certainly not going to start with something that is tied to bitcoin! :)
     
    #140     Nov 7, 2024
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