mRNA inventor, Dr. R. Malone says, "Pfizer vaccine does more harm than good"... Twitter suspends him

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Scataphagos, Dec 30, 2021.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So once again you admit to making up numbers.... or getting numbers from totally disreputable sources on the web. Yep... same shiat over & over.
     
    #11     Dec 30, 2021
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    #12     Jan 8, 2022
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  3. Ayn Rand

    Ayn Rand

    Omicron vs Delta

    1. Omicron has +50 mutations vs Delta
    2. Omicron is shaped differently than Delta
    3. All vaccines based on original covid and Delta
    4. Vaccines work by producing antibodies of certain shape
    5. Vaccines based on the shape of the original covid and Delta are relatively effective in protecting the vaccinated from original covid and Delta
    6. However, antibodies produces by vaccines are the wrong shape to be very effect against Omicron
    7. **Current vaccines may actually be detrimental to protecting against Omicron
    8. While there is a lot, there is a limit amount of antibody resources in the body. If a large portion of the antibody resources are used to produce covid/Delta antibodies via continuous vaccination, then the body may not have enough antibody resources left to respond to Omicron

    The current policy conundrum is that both Omicron and Delta are being treated as the same virus when they are not.
     
    #13     Jan 8, 2022
  4. piezoe

    piezoe

    That's 0.1 % of the MD's in the world that hold these views, assuming you are right.

    I'm going to have to go with the 99.9% here. You can find an advocate for anything, no matter how crackpot the idea, if you look hard enough. ZeroHedge is the ideal place to look for crackpots.
     
    #14     Jan 8, 2022
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  5. piezoe

    piezoe

    It is not without reason that you have become known as one of ET's resident lunatics.
     
    #15     Jan 8, 2022
  6. piezoe

    piezoe

    Sorry, but the data says otherwise. See the CDC.
     
    #16     Jan 8, 2022
  7. Ayn Rand

    Ayn Rand

    I am not familiar with the data you reference but I suspect that Covid cases were commingled with either original/Delta/Omicron all just being counted as Covid.

    Vaccines work by producing antibodies of a certain shape. Omicron, with over 50 surfaces mutations, is sufficiently different in shape to make current vaccines much less effective.

    The need for a booster for Omicron is being driven by this narrative.

    "Pfizer reported $14 billion in third-quarter revenue for vaccines and is set to earn $36 billion from vaccine sales by the end of the year on the back of the Covid-19 vaccine roll-out".
     
    #17     Jan 8, 2022
  8. piezoe

    piezoe

    this is not true however. What you are referring to as "shape" is due to protein folding which is dependent on the amino acid sequence in the proteins of interest.. In the case of the pfizer and moderna vaccines, that cause cells to produce antibodies that recognize the spike proteins on the surface of Covid virus, the data shows that these vaccines are quite effective in producing antibodies (proteins) that bind with the omicron variant's spike proteins. Just look at the differences between hospitallation rates for vaccinated versus unvaccinated where omicron is the dominate variant. You can't explain that large a difference if the vaccine is not effective against omicron. What you write is nonsense. It is not supported by the data. I have no doubt you can find plenty of support for your view on the internet. It's nonsense however. Sorry to say there is a lot of nonsense on the internet these days.

    The booster produces exactly the same antibody as the fist two shots. The booster produces more of exactly the same antibody. That's all that's needed here. It may be true that the spike protein on the Omicron Variant has a slightly different amino acid sequence than the previously dominant variants, and therefor the mRNA vaccine could be tweaked to give slightly better binding to the Omicron variants. But to imply the current vaccines are not effective against the omicron variant is wrong. The data clearly shows they are quite effective so long as your antibody titer is sufficiently high, Get the booster.
     
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    #18     Jan 8, 2022
  9. Suppression of the innate immune system: The main cause of the pandemic of the fully vaccinated

    They can’t end the pandemic and they prevent the development of herd immunity, by decreasing the innate immune response against this virus. Rather, the vaccines reduce deaths by raising the white flag. The halfwits taught your immune system to tolerate the spike protein, tolerating the spike protein reduced deaths and so the halfwits accidentally booked a success and began injecting the whole population with this junk.


    Rather than developing a vaccine, the halfwits at Moderna and Pfizer had accidentally developed an immunotolerance inducing therapy that appeared to help reduce deaths (as long as you make sure to label people as unvaccinated for the first 21 days after the first injection). The halfwits also made sure to exclude high risk elderly from their initial trials, so the vaccines looked far more effective than they actually were. They had achieved the most dangerous kind of success: Accidental success.


    It wasn’t immediately obvious that the vaccines increase infection risk by disabling innate immunity, because initially your body is flooded with effective neutralizing antibodies against this virus. It’s only once the antibodies begin to wane, that it becomes clear that the main methods your body normally uses to prevent or abort infection have been disabled.

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    We have created a brave new world, in which our immune systems function more like those of the bats who carry these viruses with them. Rather than always being on the lookout to purge this virus, the vaccines teach our bodies to tolerate this virus. The virus then changes its receptor binding domain, so that it’s no longer hampered by our antibodies and an uneasy truce comes into existence.


    Here in the Netherlands, we reached what would normally have been a peak in viral RNA in sewage for this virus in oktober of 2021. That’s how you would have expected the peak to look, before our immune systems begin to purge the virus and viral RNA in sewage starts to decline again. What has happened instead is that in the next three months, RNA in sewage quadrupled. Everyone is constantly shedding this virus, as we have been turned into proper hosts.


    If you keep this in mind, that the vaccines induce immune tolerance, then it should be quite easy to keep peddling statistics forever, that suggest the vaccines are protecting people. After every booster, you ignore the infections that happen during the first week of immunosuppression and you pile those infections and subsequent hospitalizations or deaths onto the previous pile.

    Countries that currently perform worst, are the ones that have given everyone booster shots.

    After the third dose of the “vaccine” wanes, which happens quite rapidly, the combination of a suppressed innate immune response and an absence of neutralizing antibodies leads to a situation where the virus is now capable of overwhelming the body again. This then leads people to start dying in the traditional manner again. Here we can see what’s currently happening in Israel:

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    https://www.rintrah.nl/suppression-of-the-innate-immune-system-the-main-cause-of-the-pandemic-of-the-fully-vaccinated/
     
    #19     Feb 5, 2022
  10. easymon1

    easymon1

    Facts is Facts.
    If you decide to fill in more on the mol-bio of this omicron gizmo that might be very interesting for some of us.
    Are the binding surfaces significantly altered?
    Why is that important?
    How related is this strain to prior variants?
    Does it step away from the "parent" strain in unusual ways?
    Is the "parent" strain even one of the usual suspects?
    Has it been engineered / altered intentionally - 0% to 100% score per your instincts?
    Does it confer immunity to the last major vairant to basically damp it down in a population of experimental subjects, (us), lol?
    AAPL a day! lol

    https://banned.video/watch?id=61d4dec24efc95531abae71e

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    #20     Feb 5, 2022