Daddytwo, Ive traded opm, done prop, bank and fund...im familiar with uk and us rules Right, getting fca registered if u do it yourself is around 5k to 15k, takes 4 to 6 months...and you can outsource to http://www.methuenconsulting.com which is much cheaper than linearinvestments...all the bells and whistles linear provides you do not need as a startup apex fund services, for example, charges 36k per year plus mngmt fee based on assets......for all services...so j can enter much cheaper....if u do yiur research in the us,so long as you are below a certain threshold in assets and less than 15 accounts, rule 4.67 or whatever, you can market as a cta but don't have to regjster with nfa. having said that, voluntary registration is recommended as its cheap im more concerned about your reasons for taking outside money. unless you need more cash for strategy diversification or need instituional access, you are better of scaling up yourself and keep 100 % once u take in outside $, best execution requirements kick in and you dilute your earnings with investor. so unless you can get to 10 million aum with a 35% split, it is a waste of tme call up infinity capital management, the UK arm of first new york....unless your track record is scalable to greater than 1mm, they wont waste tine with yo y
pm me, i will tell you the right contact at infinity to speak to but will need to do some vetting first
let's say your investor is uk based, you are deemed as conducting a regulated investment activity. and run compliance costs, let's use £30k per annum you can get around this by only dealing with institutional investors who give you a managed account under a consultancy arrangement. but as a newbie, you will get 1/20 or 0/35. but it all depends on what u negotiate lets say u have 1mm seed with 3x max notional leverage at 1/20 so your mngmt fee is 10k per annum you hypothetically make 400k for the investor but you can only keep 20% = 80k depending on your compliance costs you are in a worse situation just wondering, have u done an ltd on your trading or operating as a sole trader
I appreciate you're a nice guy, you have good intentions and try to do the best by people. I'm no different, in actual fact, I'm a lot more prudent with other people's money than my own. However, I've seen what can happen with people when it comes to business and money. If you know who your investors are then IMO you're going about it the wrong way from the outset. There needs to be separation between fund manager and investor. The last thing a fund manager needs on his mind is the identities of the people he's investing for. If you can't create or afford that separation then you're probably not in a position to manage OPM. Furthermore, your initial investors don't need to know they're the Guinea pigs. All they need is information to evaluate the investment product you're offering. I would never accept money direct from family or friends either. They're welcome to invest in the fund like any other investment product accessible to the market providing I don't know anything about it.
Severe understatement. Plus lots of attitude. "I was in the war so that means I'm better than you at everything never mind I think 12 percent a year is an amazing return and why am I not getting 5000 percent a month from you?" Its like they are all on meth.
Well, that would be the ideal situation-- but in the real world ,unless you are a superstar with the pedigree and reputation to match, YOU WILL HAVE TO TALK TO ALL YOUR CLIENTS. or NO ONE will invest with you-- sorry but that is just the way it is. surf
Why not become a proprietary trader with access to capital rather than the hassle of CTA or hedge? surf
I have a volatility strategy that trades XIV with an S&P hedge. I have another strategy that trades closed-end funds. If you are trading more than futures, and you are just starting out with OPM, what structure should you use?
I think you should talk to a lawyer who is familiar with such structure. My intuition tells me that you need some fund structure because you have two underlying assets.